Samples from
Playing with Loops:
Pop Rock Loop
This form of Rock is catchy and energetic enough to appeal to younger listeners, but also mainstream enough to appeal to adults as well. It has huge chorus hooks, arena-Rock instrumentation, many layered loop textures and a definite backbeat. In addition, the prduction is clean, polished and bright, making full use of the advances in recording and loop technology that had taken place during the 1980s and 1990s. Artists such as Michelle Branch, Avril Lavigne and Alanis Morisette exemplify the Pop Rock genre. |
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Backing Tracks
This method combines all four of the previous concepts (Drum Loops, Percussion Loops, Instrument Loops, and FX Loops), and it is also the most challenging aspect of performing with loops.
Nowadays, when you are called upon to work on a track in the studio, you are usually the first (or sometimes only) live instrument to be recorded. Up until that point most composers write exclusively with MIDI instruments and Drum Loops of all types. Not only is this method cheaper than the days of demo recording, but it allows the composer to point the musicians toward their artistic vision without a player's style coloring the composition.
When these sessions occur, you are typically asked to play with an existing programmed drum track (or loop) and add the feel and tone of live drums as well. This is extremely difficult because not only do you have to play (and groove) with the synthetic drum track present, you also have to become one with the feel of the bass loop, guitar loop and every other sound present. |
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PLAYING WITH DRUM LOOPS
by Donny Gruendler
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As a student trying to learn the indispensable skill of grooving with loops, this book is an invaluable resource for me. Aside from working with him directly (he does give lessons, folks!), this book is the only way to access Donny's encyclopedic knowledge of what it means to actually play WITH a loop, not just over it, or worse, against it. Plus, there's a bunch of hot fills in it. Sick!
C. Green (PIT, Hollywood, CA)
Donny Gruendler has put together a very practical method of learning to play with loops, an all important tool for the modern drummer who wants to work! This book and CDs seem to be the only educational tool out there to cover this material. Very well done!
Chuck Silverman "drummer, educator" (LA, CA, USA)
If you are interested in becoming a commercial drummer in either Rock, Pop, Metal or Hip Hop -- this book is for you. Gruendler clearly walks you through his tried and true methods of playing along with Drum Loops, Instrument Loops, Sound Fx and Full Backing Tracks. There are approx. 150 loops to play along to and clearly presented demo tracks (On 2 CDs). AND you can go to Gruendler's website and download additional loops with the code provided on the inner cover of the book. So thats 300 Loops!
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..more Donny Gruendler samples in the Clinic Section

| Pro in the Studio: Donny Gruendler (from the Apple Website) |
A master of digital drum loops, Donny Gruendler incorporates seemingly static samples and MIDI drum tracks into improvisational performances. He has created rich and even epic mixes on the fly for artists like Kenny Burrell, John Medeski, D.J. Logic, and Rick Holmstrom. He also teaches drummers how to tie loops together at the Musicians Institute in Hollywood and has written a book entitled “Playing with Drum Loops.” To do it all, he uses Logic Pro running on a PowerBook G4.
“I was trained as a jazz drummer, but I learned that if I really embraced the technology, I could do more with my music, and, ultimately, I could get more work,” says Gruendler.
Breaking It Down
In his Encino, Calif., studio, Gruendler breaks songs down to its basic components that can be triggered during a gig. “I’ll get master sessions and I’ll go through all the tracks,” he says. “I’ll listen for what’s going to be played live and I mute those tracks. I’ll chop everything else into eight- or 16- or 32-bar segments and put them in to Logic for a performance.” Those segments often include instruments or parts that would be difficult to pull off live without a full accompaniment orchestra hits, choral groups, or string quartets.
Gruendler, a Berklee-trained jazz drummer, likes to take basic parts and embellish them using Logic Pro filters. “A lot of looping, from a drummer’s perspective, is mangling things,” he says, “but you don’t want to change the loop completely. You want to change its texture. That’s where Logic really excels it has all kinds of effects and filters that you can pile on in real time.”
Gruendler also created loops for his book, “Playing with Drum Loops,” in his home studio with Logic Pro. “In Ultrabeat I can create things very quickly,” he says. “In one day I would need to make 30 loops because I was on publication deadline. It was no problem I made them, put them into iTunes, and burned them to CD for the publisher. It’s a really simple workflow in Logic. It’s all about creating music more than working like an engineer. The workflow is quick and I can make the tracks sound really good.”
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Live Loops
Once Gruendler has dissected a track, he’s ready to jam. The drummer uses a 10-pad DrumKat to select and trigger samples and licks while he’s playing. “When I’m on stage, I feel like the tracks are someone I’m having a duet with,” he says. “Sometimes electronic music producers don’t think that samples and loops can adapt to a live situation. I have an improv background. I don’t think of the parts as rigid dance beats. I bring the loops in and out of the performance in real time. I can pick through them and I’m not thinking of them as fixed things. The computer is just another live instrument to me.”
During a concert, Gruendler uses Logic Pro and Ableton Live to set off samples and snippets while he’s pounding out beats. “I use Logic to make beats in Ultrabeat, funkify them with the oscillator or the noise generator filter. I rewire some tracks to Ableton Live and use both programs. I hook an M-Audio USB 1x1 interface into my PowerBook and depending on the pad I hit, I trigger beats from Ultrabeat or Ableton. I can do drum loops, background vocals, keyboards, or background textures. I can trigger all those in time with the band and have sections loop as long as I need them to.”
Gruendler’s PowerBook G4 is always on stage with him. “It never breaks down, and I love it for that,” he says. “And I love that it’s tiny, because it’s always with me. It’s small and light. The screen is big. I already have a truck full of gear. The last thing I need is a heavy laptop. There are so many things to think about when I’m on stage, I don’t have to think about my computer it just works. And the less time I have to think about my system, the more time I have to do my music.”

Gruendler’s latest music project is JuliaFly, a rock band that takes full advantage of his electronic expertise. “We all met at Berklee,” he says. “The band has a really high-tech sound with a hard edge and we use all of the technology live. We have about an album’s worth of material and we hope to get it released within the year.” Gruendler’s also working on a second drum loops book and a teaching DVD. “I feel blessed because I enjoy teaching, writing, and making music,” he says. “I get to do all those things for a living. I’m pretty lucky.”
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Pasic 2006

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