People are becoming much more used to interact with others virtually and not so much in the real world.That's been my observation as well, and the gist of this thread. I guess these drummers don't think about being a musician and interacting with other musicians... and I don't understand why they wouldn't consider going all the way with their talent. Do video views really replace the applause of a live crowd?
That has proven to be false, I can make a channel that gets thousands of daily views if I pay for views, My content could be terrible yet I would have the views to back it up. If I have views I can monetize and if I monetize, I can pay for more views, so anyone could make a living doing that even with mediocre content. Clearly not everyone is paying for views and likes, but there are a lot of creators doing it more so than you think.Because of the algorithm, anyone who wants to make a living on Youtube HAS to make content that attracts views, comments and subscribers. It was easier in the beginning, but now there are thousands of drummers trying to be popular on Youtube. So the content is quite narrowly focussed and most people follow it. There is also a strict timetable - the advice is to post regularly and consistently (like once a week on the same day every week) and the content has to be consistently engaging and good.
I actually think a lot of working musicians in the real world have more creative freedom and more choice as to what to work on.
Such a long thread.. sorry if this has already been mentioned but my take on it is;There's no question that many of the drummers who are known for their online presence can play the drums. Some are quite proficient on the instrument. But how do you feel about their status as a drummer/musician?
There was this guy who posted youtube videos once a week about cool fills, I discovered him on r/drums on Reddit. For about a month I dug what he was playing, but then he started playing fills to just made no musical sense and were overtly complicated (which, coming from me, says a lot). After a few weeks of that I stopped paying attention to him. Forgot the guy's channel name.Such a long thread.. sorry if this has already been mentioned but my take on it is;
- I am tired of being bombarded on reels and feeds with someone demonstrating yet another silly drum fill or pattern that I would never use in a real playing situation. Out of the 1000s that pop up on my social media feeds.. maybe one or two were cool.
Because they passedAnd what about musicians who are dead and cannot play live any more..? Why do they get a pass?
And that's going nowhere. If the content is even 'average' (better than terrible), you will have to keep paying for views because when you stop paying your views will fall off a cliff.That has proven to be false, I can make a channel that gets thousands of daily views if I pay for views, My content could be terrible yet I would have the views to back it up.
Because part of being a Youtuber is having a strong social media presence that generates more interaction and sends traffic to your main money making outlet - Youtube.Seems as though the assumption is a drummer with a strong social media presence is not playing live or playing with other musicians outside of their content.
How do we know these drummers aren’t playing in their local scene or working on other projects that aren’t featured on their channels?
Most people looking for a drummer are song writers. I think a great advert for your services as a drummer is playing a cover song with great skill, taste and a good sound. Not many YouTubers who do the super fast, super technical drum solos get picked to join a touring band.
You are right, it is the ideal shop window, but the type of video drumming that gets notoriety and therefore gets you noticed, is generally not the kind of drumming touring or recording musicians are looking for.
YouTube doesn't have actual people reviewing the content it is all reviewed by an algorithm so if someone is fulfilling the criteria (X amount of views) they will get paid, advertisers don't pay youtubers directly they pay YouTube. Yes if the content is mediocre the channel is going nowhere fast, but in the meantime it could still generate some revenue. Some people have a whole business just on reacting to some other people's music for example Elizabeth Zharoff "The Charismatic Voice" a whole shop of T-shirts and other channel related items and climbing. at 1.57 million subscribers and millions of people watching her average content really doesn't need to be great.And that's going nowhere. If the content is even 'average' (better than terrible), you will have to keep paying for views because when you stop paying your views will fall off a cliff.
I now someone who paid for thousands of Instagram (fake) followers. It didn't really do them any good because they still only got a few hundred likes per post. Companies are wise to the fakes. If you have 200,000 followers on instagram but only 250 likes per post it's a massive red flag.