Why Musicians Are Broke and How to Fix It (Music Monetization)

Otto

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Why Musicians Are Broke and How to Fix It

Great intro to the very basic ideas of music monitization...The application being pushed looks promising...though I'd love to hear from you guys what you think.
 
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Why some musicians are broke? It's their attitudes.

- "I'm a talented professional musician. I should never work a job that is beneath me. I'm better than that."
- "I really need that $5,000 guitar even though I'm already struggling just to put food on the table.
- "Even though I'm 300 pounds, 63 years old, and unsuccessful in life, I'm 100% confident that I'm gonna make it big with my (crappy) original song."
 
A while back, in my previous band, the lead guy used to make all sorts of disparaging comments about working people. He loved the pizza delivery jokes. One day... In front of the whole band.... In response to one of his jokes about pizza delivery guys I had a joke of my own.

Me: "What's the difference between you and a pizza delivery guy?"
Lead Guy: "Uh... I don't know."
Me: "The pizza delivery guy has a job!" :D
 
The video is from Rick Beato. He interviews a person talking about the way % of 'rights' are split and shills a good looking app for tracking it.

Just the intro to the identifier codes and how the 'industry' handles splits/categorizes roles is worth the watch.

Hoping to get some educated and experienced points of view while giving everyone a chance to explore how this happens.

If you don't know, you won't get a proper split for what you do in many cases. Don't leave it for someone else to tell you what your part of the pie is....learn and be involved.
 
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Easy!
Money out > Money in = Broke
Money in < Money out = Broke
Money in > Money out = Rich (some day)

It's a lifestyle/habit/attitude equation. Live like there's no tomorrow = broke; live today like you'll be old and unable to work in the future = money in the bank. Every dime you earn doesn't have to go in the bank, but if you get in the habit of squirreling away a part of every paycheck, in 20, 30 or 40 years you'll have amassed much more than you ever thought possible.

From,
A guy who figured that out at age 38, but still was able to retire from the workforce (totally!) at age 62.
 
The application being pushed looks promising.
The [free] app needs to be in every recording studio and on every recording artist's phone/computer. It would solve *so* many problems.

And the "Splits" tab? That will probably destroy a few relationships as well. But it would also strengthen many more.

After reading Running with the Devil, about Van Halen, I could see Warner Bros. not allowing this app to be used 'cuz it would destroy their greed-based biz model.

I hope it works out for them and future users.
 
Well, it sure as hell won't be getting fixed by playing for "exposure". Perhaps we could hold a benefit concert sometime.
You know, to help raise awareness:unsure:
 
if you get in the habit of squirreling away a part of every paycheck, in 20, 30 or 40 years you'll have amassed much more than you ever thought possible
Truth. Balances don't seem that much in early years. But one day years later, you start noticing - "holy crap, it's a chunk of money!" (62 yo, could retire but don't want to yet.)
 
Managing expenses is always more important than revenue, and that applies no matter how much revenue there is. A million $ a year means nothing if expenditures and lifestyle choices are $1.1m. Conversely, someone with zero debt doesn't have to work too hard to live a great life and have money in the bank.

While I didn't feel like investing 28 minutes in the video, from what I could determine, it applies to payments for writers and producers, not necessarily the session players, and certainly not players in a band which is what most of us here are.

So for players out there free-lancing but struggling with money, there's no shame in getting a regular job. First, it's not likely to interfere with gigs or rehearsals, since it's likely some (or all) of the other bandmembers also have jobs, and gigs are typically in the evening. Second, it's a nice way to build income instead of sitting around and making nothing. For those of us in the US, depending on the job and length of employment, it also builds your social security equity which comes back to you later. It's almost like free money! Almost... Third, a little regimen never hurts. Could help avoid depression.

In short, starving for one's art is highly overrated.

That said, managing debt is crucial. I don't think it's ever smart to live beyond your means. Fun perhaps, but it does catch up. The instant you have a month or two without work, you're in trouble. It's easy enough to make cheap choices. Cook at home, don't buy the latest phone when it comes out, stop paying for digital TV channels, make more than the minimum payments on credit cards (ideally, keep those charges to a minimum and pay off the entire balance each month,) etc. saving $50, 75 or more on random expenses adds up fast and helps bring other debts down faster. It doesn't take too long to see the debts shrinking, and the discretionary income growing. And that's a great feeling!

Anyway, I don't imagine any of that is really new to anyone, I just thought it needed to be said. I've been there and worked hard to reverse it, and it will never happen again.

Anyway, with respect to music creators and the dearth of physical & digital sales and paltry streaming revenue, live performance has survived as the tried & true way to make money. It's not necessary to play for 10,000 or even 1,000 people every night. But if the music is good, and the band is enjoyable to watch, people will come. If the music can't attract an audience, that says something, too.
 
It comes down to supply and demand.

The supply of people who would love a career in music far outweighs the demand for professional musicians.
 
It comes down to supply and demand.

The supply of people who would love a career in music far outweighs the demand for professional musicians.
I agree, but enjoying playing should happen whether it amounts to a full-time income or not. If someone really has a problem having a day job and only playing part-time, perhaps they're not cut out to be a musician. I think the all-or-nothing perspective causes the most frustration. I had day jobs for years before and during the Al era, and I think my gigs were even more enjoyable as a result. Partly because I could afford to do them :) but mostly because I genuinely love playing.
 
I agree, but enjoying playing should happen whether it amounts to a full-time income or not. If someone really has a problem having a day job and only playing part-time, perhaps they're not cut out to be a musician. I think the all-or-nothing perspective causes the most frustration. I had day jobs for years before and during the Al era, and I think my gigs were even more enjoyable as a result. Partly because I could afford to do them :) but mostly because I genuinely love playing.
You also get to be more choosy about the gigs and music you play because you’ve already got an income…win, win! :) (y)
 
There is work, just not everyone is willing to do it, or able to do it. Like the guys who came to me wanting to help them prepare for a boat gig were all able to find jobs in short order. Not everyone wants to be a drummer bad enough to take that kind of work.

Most people have to be a little entrepreneurial and exploit their other talents, interests, and personal connections a little bit. Including finding a partner with a more stable job.
 
You also get to be more choosy about the gigs and music you play because you’ve already got an income…win, win! :) (y)

I suppose I could be, maybe I should be, but with literally two exceptions in the last 50 years or so, I've taken every gig offered if I'm available.

I like playing drums.

Perhaps I still get called because I'm not choosy? :)
 
I suppose I could be, maybe I should be, but with literally two exceptions in the last 50 years or so, I've taken every gig offered if I'm available.

I like playing drums.

Perhaps I still get called because I'm not choosy? :)
I imagine I would choose to play the kind of gigs you get offered if asked! :)
 
All the current modern successful musicians that I know have different streams of revenue not just playing live, all of them agree that having those is the only way to make a living and support a family. Ola Englund being just one example.
What most of them don’t talk about is how being a successful “influencer” is a lot of work, so much so that it becomes a full time job we’re they constantly have to produce content, that content has to be able to retain current viewers and attract new ones, and be able to be monetized, etc.
There are advantages about being a mostly online artist, you save on traveling expenses, you have the ability to reach a worldwide audience, you get to create content that you believe in and more. I am glad I have a full time job so playing is only a hobby for me. I am also not sure if at this point in my life I would enjoy being a touring musician.
to those making a living as full time musicians, my hat is of to you.
 
Someone just posted this on Facebook. Knowing the internet it is probably only partially true. But still..................

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