bongoman
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The bass ones are usually sized and shaped to fit with a lower profile and less contact with the heads. Some of the bass ones are weighted, which is claimed/believed to give a deeper tone.
Many Ways to Skin a Cat? ...Or your Bass Drum?
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jda
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RWP 66 14x20 Gretsch bass- Powerstroke Fiberskyn batter- Clear Pinstripe full front- no felt (pratt removed)
AQSF 66 14x20 Gretsch bass- Fiberskyn Amb batter- Black Amb. full front- batter felt -Pratt present
SWR 05 14x18 Gretsch bass- Powerstroke Amb Batter- Remo coated ambassador full front- no felt
I never assume I'll be mic'ed - and really by mid 80s escaped -by playing pick up jazz and older swing outfits - broke away from that rock era my fellow rock mates pursued- So I like a lively sound and the feel a full front head has
up to 74 I was into the "rock" "here's your mic's" but 75-79 I was in Music school. When I returned disco sheraton bands were the thing and mic'ing and no front head was still in. By 84 I dropped out of that scene and went with older jazz musicians. One grouping were very hip pro's the other were commercial dance Jazz swing era WW2 gen musicians So I didn't have to pursue the mic and the "of course I port" scene. The rock scene has been at arm's length to me since about 79 and when I would dip into there (as my old 1st band was still rock based) I would take my jazz set up into their scene and then jump back out. So even tho I began as a rock drummer I jumped that ship and never had to carry mics and wires and be concerned with as I was playing mostly acoustic front or minimally electrified groups settings with minimal production
AQSF 66 14x20 Gretsch bass- Fiberskyn Amb batter- Black Amb. full front- batter felt -Pratt present
SWR 05 14x18 Gretsch bass- Powerstroke Amb Batter- Remo coated ambassador full front- no felt
I never assume I'll be mic'ed - and really by mid 80s escaped -by playing pick up jazz and older swing outfits - broke away from that rock era my fellow rock mates pursued- So I like a lively sound and the feel a full front head has
up to 74 I was into the "rock" "here's your mic's" but 75-79 I was in Music school. When I returned disco sheraton bands were the thing and mic'ing and no front head was still in. By 84 I dropped out of that scene and went with older jazz musicians. One grouping were very hip pro's the other were commercial dance Jazz swing era WW2 gen musicians So I didn't have to pursue the mic and the "of course I port" scene. The rock scene has been at arm's length to me since about 79 and when I would dip into there (as my old 1st band was still rock based) I would take my jazz set up into their scene and then jump back out. So even tho I began as a rock drummer I jumped that ship and never had to carry mics and wires and be concerned with as I was playing mostly acoustic front or minimally electrified groups settings with minimal production
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doggyd69b
Gold Member
Mostly looks, but on the other hand those have some weight so they pretty much don't move once placed. and some are designed to hold a kick microphone (the flat type like the Shure Beta 91A).
cbphoto
Diamond Member
The Evans EQ Pad has a very light pillow section, much lighter than a towel or blanket. This allows for head movement, but still has a dampening effect. It can be moved easily to add more or less dampening.
The effect of the KickPro really surprised me. It dampens the shell vibrations giving the drum a much tighter sound. I assume this is more noticeable on an 18" deep bass drum than a 14". I've also placed the KickPro agains the batter head and there's no resonance, producing a very tight bump/sound.
With these two devices I can produce a wide variety of bass drum sounds from open & boomy to a very tight, short punch.
criz p. critter
Silver Member
jda
Diamond Member
can you imagine I picked and specced those out of a catalog? I went there with thermogloss Ludwigs in mind but was sold on the Premiers (because of price.../ owned them from 1971-1996. (along same time I found a 66 Gretsch Progressive Jazz Set in 1975 I still own)
this - standing at the counter- pic sold me I had no idea what I was getting. I specced an extra floor tom and the color but otherwise; just fate I got a 22 instead of 20 bass, (catalog spec says 20) these were at the time cheaper than the Ludwigs
This was Rock set for my big rock career that fizzled never happened
this - standing at the counter- pic sold me I had no idea what I was getting. I specced an extra floor tom and the color but otherwise; just fate I got a 22 instead of 20 bass, (catalog spec says 20) these were at the time cheaper than the Ludwigs
This was Rock set for my big rock career that fizzled never happened
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doggyd69b
Gold Member
Agree, I bought the drums in my avatar, they came with the Evans muffler head, it was just the right amount to have a very powerful kick and very little sustain. I never liked to have all kinds of junk inside the drums, tape leaves residue, fabric just detracts from the drum looks (if you have a see-through head and other methods seem to all be difficult to apply. The Evans head doesn't drastically alter the drum sound just gets it to a sweet spot, you could always add more muffling but as is I believe it would work just fine for most genres No felt strip needed in my case, just tune your drums every so often and maybe treat the room you use. Room acoustics have a lot to do with how much or how little you would want to muffle...
criz p. critter
Silver Member
+1 what others have already said. I use the Evans EQ. The two sides are made like little hinges, so they press lightly against both heads. I can’t see them while I’m playing, of course, but I can imagine the batter side bouncing up with each hit, opening the head up a bit, then settling back against it… a pillowy noise gate.
The two sides are different sized, so you can orient it as you like for more/less muffling for batter/reso.
Finally, it has Velcro underneath, so once you’ve found your sweet spot, you can keep it there. I’d advise against using that, though. I did it in my Gretsch kick, and when I removed the velcro it also removed some silver sealer. Now I keep it loose in there and just adjust it before I play.
Evans EQ Pad Bass Drum Damper
The Evans EQ Pad is a highly efficient bass drum muffler that enables control over attack and sustain. The EQ Pad is designed with a hinge that allows the damping agent to jump away from the head at impact before returning to muffle sustain. With a low profile, the EQ Pad also allows...
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Rock Salad
Silver Member
An old well loved, retired pillow full of lumps from the foam getting all matted is my favorite muffler. So easily adjustable from completely dead to wide open just by how I place it, so yes a port 4”
I play rock & roll and folk, half our shows are miced.
I play rock & roll and folk, half our shows are miced.
mikyok
Platinum Member
In an ideal world I like my bass drums open with the only dampening being pre-dampened heads. Sadly we don't live in one of those so most of the time it's a trusty pillow in the kick and mic it up live. It's convenient and keeps sound engineers happy.
I've used that many ways to get a good bass drum sound from felt strips, taking the front head off, little port holes all the way to pretty much the rim of the head to stop all the fitting rattling. The Simon Phillips towel trick on big bass drums is amazing. I had a 26x20 that i used that on and it was perfect.
I've used that many ways to get a good bass drum sound from felt strips, taking the front head off, little port holes all the way to pretty much the rim of the head to stop all the fitting rattling. The Simon Phillips towel trick on big bass drums is amazing. I had a 26x20 that i used that on and it was perfect.
Winston_Wolf
Platinum Member
My 24" bass drums have a Calftone EMAD batter/ Aquarian Regulator ported combo, with a small piece of mattress foam in the bottom to soak up any remaining "boing" from inside the drum. My 22" bass drum is super resonant, so I run that one with virtually no front head and again just a piece of mattress foam in the bottom.
Square
El Conquistador
I've seen this. How to you affix it to the drum, or do you?
I ask because it seems to me that it would get rattled out of place pretty quickly. At that point if you don't have a ported head, you're hosed.
mikyok
Platinum Member
RVC
Active Member
I must be one of only a few peeps on here who enjoys the heavily muffled “classic” sound of the large center port/no reso bass drum. Pre-muffled heads like PS3 and EMAD are great at what they do, but they don’t make the same sound. Yeah, the sound is outdated, but so am I and so is the music I play. 
Yamaha Rider
Platinum Member
Doesn't the purse/ towel vibrate off?