PorkPieGuy
Platinum Member
Looking for some solid flat-base hardware. I will need a boom stand as well. The cymbals I play are big, but they are thin. Thanks!
Who has the best most stable flat-base hardware…and GO!
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cbphoto
Diamond Member
Boom + flat base = unstable. Are you going for a look? Or just want some wobble on stage? I’m curious how this will end.
PorkPieGuy
Platinum Member
I love the look of flat base hardware, and I like the idea of light weight too. I already have some DW 9000 stands, but I'd like something a little lighter.
PorkPieGuy
Platinum Member
UPDATE: Y'all can continue with this discussion, but I think I'm just gonna go with the DW 3000 hardware. I'm just scared of flat base hardware given the sketchy surfaces I have to play on.
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C. Dave Run
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Pearl flat based hardware allows for reversible tripods, so you can have both worlds. This includes the hi hat stand.
PorkPieGuy
Platinum Member
UPDATE 2: I went to GC and picked up a 3000 hardware pack in addition to an extra DW 3000 snare stand for my rack tom. While I'm not the biggest DW drums fan, I believe that this company is one of the best innovators in hardware.
Iristone
Silver Member
Jinbao. You can even hang toms on them.
Unfortunately, the stability will come with a heavier weight than most other flat-based options.
EDIT: unfortunately they don't seem to export them at the moment. Jinbao dealers are notoriously difficult to find and order (especially high-end products) from even within China, so international dealers might delay even more. Once they hit the international market, you could search for model number B2219.
Unfortunately, the stability will come with a heavier weight than most other flat-based options.
EDIT: unfortunately they don't seem to export them at the moment. Jinbao dealers are notoriously difficult to find and order (especially high-end products) from even within China, so international dealers might delay even more. Once they hit the international market, you could search for model number B2219.
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Recently went with 3000 hardware (+ 5000 hi-hat stand and pedal) myself, for the exact reason you did. I play too many janky places with uneven surfaces to worry about flat-based stands ever again. The Crosstown stuff was cool and the uber-light weight was certainly amazing... I just couldn't get with the looks.
DutchDrummersDreams
Platinum Member
I compared the DW Ultralite and the Yamaha Crosstown series, but the Ultralite’s lacked quite a lot quility feel for me.
The looks of the Crosstown series are not really visible on stage anyway, but come with all the things you want from light, yet rock solid hardware.
Here they are on a small stage with a small bass drum:
I wonder if aluminium could be chrome plated.
Maybe Yamaha could add that in a next run.
The looks of the Crosstown series are not really visible on stage anyway, but come with all the things you want from light, yet rock solid hardware.
Here they are on a small stage with a small bass drum:
I wonder if aluminium could be chrome plated.
Maybe Yamaha could add that in a next run.
cbphoto
Diamond Member
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C. Dave Run
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It can also be polished to a mirror finish.No, but it can be anodized many different colors.
I like the anodized idea. Colored stands might be pretty cool.
cbphoto
Diamond Member
The upside: anodizing slightly strengthens the metal (one of the reasons aluminum bicycle rims are anodized).
The downside: scratches will show, especially if it’s a dark color (e.g., black).
PorkPieGuy
Platinum Member
Update 3:
I A/B'ed a 3000 and a 9000 stand last night, and there's not a lot of difference between the two due to the 3000 stand update in 2020. The 9000 is only the slightest bit heavier, but there's not a ton of difference. They appear very sturdy, and I'm glad I got them.
I A/B'ed a 3000 and a 9000 stand last night, and there's not a lot of difference between the two due to the 3000 stand update in 2020. The 9000 is only the slightest bit heavier, but there's not a ton of difference. They appear very sturdy, and I'm glad I got them.
David Hunter
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gish
Senior Member
So, you stated you wanted lighter hardware but ended up with stands almost as heavy as what you already had? I’m confused, but enjoy your new gear!
DutchDrummersDreams
Platinum Member
PorkPieGuy
Platinum Member
I would love lightweight hardware. However, I have come to the conclusion that a) my cymbals are just too big, and b) I play way too many gigs that don’t provide a nice flat surface to set up on. Also, wind isn’t my friend either. My big cymbals act like a sail. Do I want heavy hardware? Nope. Do I NEED heavy hardware? Sure do…for now at least.
I’ve gone back and forth on flat base hardware for years now, and I just don’t think it’s for me right now.
Bo Eder
Platinum Member
I've owned all the new flat-based stuff: DW, Ludwig, Pearl....even some of the old original Slingerland stuff I had as a kid in the 70s...and NONE of them are as stable as a good tripod. I know the OP went with something else, but I'll cast my vote for the Crosstown stuff. I've been gigging my Crosstowns pretty hard for the last couple of years and they continue to hold up. Of course, I don't need boom stands, so I'm using them as they're designed, and they're awesome. A 20 pound bag carrying two cymbals stands, snare stand, hi hat and a pedal? I'm all over that. When I was in my 20s-30s, heavy hardware didn't seem to phase me, but now it does in my 50s. And since most of my gigs involve being outside in the wind, flat-based hardware is just a recipe for disaster, I think.
EDIT - The tripod leg option of the Pearl stands doesn't really count to me. I don't think the legs spread out far enough when in the tripod position, so I'd still be afraid to leave them alone on a windy stage.
EDIT - The tripod leg option of the Pearl stands doesn't really count to me. I don't think the legs spread out far enough when in the tripod position, so I'd still be afraid to leave them alone on a windy stage.