Paiste 2002 Cymbals, durable or not?

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Metal4life22

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Hey guys, so I've been noticing an interesting thing about Paiste 2002 cymbals. I've seen some people break them because they mentioned that they're not as durable as other cymbals. I'm not sure if they're hard hitters, but what are your guys thoughts on the 2002 series?

I just bought a 20" 2002 Ride and I love it. I'm thinking about selling my Sabians and buying the John Bonham set of 24" ride 15" sound edge hats, and 2 18" crashes (one medium).

My only question is, if you take care of them, and you don't hit them too hard, will they last?

Thanks guys!
 
Well... I've been playing my 2002 20" Ride & 14" Sound Edge Hi Hats for more than 25 years. And I used to pretty much beat the crap out of them. (*)

Only managed to kill my 16" Crash. And that was ages ago, before I knew how to treat a woman, I mean: a cymbal... ;-)

Also still have the 18" Medium (Black Label) that I constantly play to this very day. (Was lucky enough to "inherit" this one from another drummer a long time ago.)

* Recorded with a couple of different engineers the last few months, and they both liked the sound so much, that they went out and bought some Paiste 2002s! :)

BTW: the 15" Giant Beat hats are freakin' awesome! Planning to buy a pair later this year. (FYI: Memphis Drum Shop currently has a great deal on the complete Giant Beat set, 15" 18" 20" 24".)

Patrice
 
I have a 20 2002 ride and 15 SE hats. They are relatively new, I don't seeing reason to be concerned about durability. Any cymbal will break if played/treated improperly. I wouldn't be concerned about the 2002s.
 
2002s are very durable cymbals and are specifically designed for rock. The complaints about breakage for Paiste cymbals are usually toward the Signatures and the 602s. But many hard hitting drummers have had no problems with those cymbal lines either. Though hard hitting, and not so hard hitting, drummers complained about the 602s breaking, Paiste has always generally marketed the 602 for lighter players and cautioned not to "overplay" the 602s or they will be damaged. I don't see that problem with the 2002s though.
 
ALL cymbals are durable. Like MN02 said, breaking cymbals is more about technique, and less about cymbals; I agree with this. I have been playing off and on for 25+ years, all kind of music and actually went through a 8 year period using Paiste Signatures which are supposed to be the most 'breakable' cymbal around. NEVER had a problem, with any cymbals I play and use.
 
I have been playing my 2oo2's since around 1980.
No problems.
They are my go to pies when I want a bright sound.
 
You can break cymbals? Ive played 2oo2 cymbals since 1979. Played the same ones for 25 years.

Technique has a lot to do with breaking.
 
There is technique to hitting a cymbal. But there is also a very long and impressive list of great drummers who break cymbals (Elvin & Gavin to name just two), so you're not necessarily just a heathen if you manage to break one yourself.

I've cracked a lot of Zildjians and Paistes over the last 30 years. I have killed Paiste Signatures with breathtaking speed and consistency so I don't bother with them anymore, but apart from them, I can't say I've noticed any other Paistes, including 2oo2s, giving up the ghost any faster than any Zildjian I've ever cracked.

I've never broken a Sabian for some reason. Possibly because I haven't owned enough and have a tendency to sell them before they go, but my collection is building up more these days and I have yet to crack one. Maybe I'm losing my touch?

Anyway, I wouldn't worry about the durability of 2oo2s - they're right up there with the best of them.
 
I'm my experience in breaking a lot of cymbals they take a better beating then the Signature series cymbals.
 
Metal4life22 said:
Hey guys, so I've been noticing an interesting thing about Paiste 2002 cymbals. I've seen some people break them because they mentioned that they're not as durable as other cymbals. I'm not sure if they're hard hitters, but what are your guys thoughts on the 2002 series?

I just bought a 20" 2002 Ride and I love it. I'm thinking about selling my Sabians and buying the John Bonham set of 24" ride 15" sound edge hats, and 2 18" crashes (one medium).

My only question is, if you take care of them, and you don't hit them too hard, will they last?

Thanks guys!
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Of course if you take care of them and don't hit them too hard they will last. As MikeM said, if you break one you're not necessarily a heathen, but at the same time, there is a technique that you can learn to not break cymbals and get the most out of them. I've been playing the same set of Zildjians now for going on 25 years and I've never broken a cymbal (I have broken little 8" splashes though, so I just don't use them anymore). I suggest maybe seeing a teacher to look at your cymbal strokes. 2002's are pretty durable. If you're breaking those, you'll probably going to break other brands as well.
 
I had a set of 2002's, 14" sound-edge hats, 2x 18" crash's, and 20" ride.

I loved them, lasted for ages, and everyone commented on them (seeing as most guys would just go buy Zildjian I gues??) as they sounded pretty cool.

Unfortunately, one crash cracked, and so did the bottom hi-hat (althought this just appeared one day, so I think that may have been damaged accidentally in transit somewhere along the line). So that's basically one crash that cracked.

I still use the other crash, and have now gone back to the ride too (after trying a Zildjian custom and a ping ride) as it has a more classic sound i think.

They are excellent cymbals, and i'm deffo going back to Paiste, seriously considering Giant Beat's (I have 15" Zildjian hats and love em, so cant wait to try the Paiste ones).

So yeah, they're very durable, but like all cymbals/equipment, they can break, just gotta look after them.
 
I have a 10 year old 16" 2002 crash that has zero signs of damage (I have a hard time keeping it clean though). I also have a 7 year old 18" 2002 crash that looks like I bought it yesterday. I've used both of these quite regularly in various genres/volume levels and they show no signs of structural damage. BUT my 8" 2002 splash has several dents since the edge is very thin (even though I don't wail on it). My opinion is that a lot of drummers that break cymbals are usually using too thin/light/small of a model for their needs.Example: Gavin uses a lot of K's for their particular tone while they may not necessarily hold up in a live prog-rock setting. Any cymbal can last if struck by an informed player, and any brand's cymbals are just as prone to breakage as the others. And really, cymbals are loud to begin with...it's weird to see some bashers on youtube overplaying a cymbal to the point where it can't put out any more sound.
 
I've never broken a cymbal in my entire life. I believe that all cymbals can break if you hit them like a wrestling hippo, and vice versa; every cymbal can last a lifetime if you have a good technique while beating the crap out of them.
However, my Paiste 2002 17" Crash seem to be a little more fragile than for instance my Zildjian A Custom crash. I haven't cracked it or anything, but it has a little dent by the hole. I believe it is from being seated on a tight cymbal stand. Moral of the story; unless you play like an elephant, you probably won't break any 2002's - but still, be careful when transporting them / mounting them to cymbal stands etc.
 
Worry not about breakage. Go ahead and buy the rest of your 2002's. If you are a Bonham fan, you will never ever regret it. They are simply just "that kind of" sound.
 
ive had my 2002s for almost 2 years now and only came across a small hairline scratch in the rides bell and hi-hats bell, not deep at all. They sound great and im sure they are enough durable.
 
I play an 18" 2002 medium crash and a 20" 2002 medium crash in a rock setting with 2B sticks. No breakage at all and the crashes have been around for 6 years now. They are very durable (the mediums anyway) and they sound great. I cracked an 18" signature power crash, changed to 2002's and never looked back. I play 15" 2002 SE hats too and they are the bomb for that fat chic sound with a nice big shimmery wash when slightly open. I love 'em!
 
I played 2002 crashes for almost 20 years, and I never cracked one. I played mostly rock back then too. Peace and goodwill.
 
In the early years Paiste cymbals were used mostly by jazz drummers and rock drummers would break them. Then suddenly they were are durable as any others. In the 1980's I used Paiste 2002 and never broke a one. They are durable and sound better than most in my opinion. I hope this helps.
 
Had a full set of 2002's in the late 80's. Broke every single one :( Switched to Zildjian & used Z's & A's. The Z's would break but the A's were fine. Haven't broken a cymbal for over 20 years till my new set arrived & broke two in a month :(
 
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