Al Strange
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I wouldn’t mind but the last time you kicked off it was 3am here in Blighty!@Al Strange would be able to hear me yelling from his living room.
I wouldn’t mind but the last time you kicked off it was 3am here in Blighty!@Al Strange would be able to hear me yelling from his living room.
Fact: You ordered a new kit.
Fact: You got a used kit.
Unless you're happy with what you got and are willing to accept a discount, send the whole mess back at THEIR expense. No ifs, ands or butts. Just ask for a shipping tag and an RMA # for full credit back to you. This isn't complicated.
If you accept what they sent you regardless of discount, you're making it easy on them not you.
I stand corrected - Glad it worked out for youEpilogue: I called the 800 number again today after I didn't hear from the manager who was supposed to call me back. They said another manager would call me back in 30 minutes. They didn't. So I called the local The Company store and talked politely to the manager there - he asked if I could drop by and talk to him in person, no need to bring in the set. When I got there he agreed it was unacceptable, then said he'd either come pick up the set at my house himself or I could keep it and he would give me a substantial discount and new heads. I didn't think the set was damaged, it just wasn't brand new, so I accepted the discount and new heads. The manager was a decent guy and very helpful and I'm glad that I didn't lose my cool with anyone.
I don't think one has to behave like a jerk to get results. I can't bring myself to be rude to operators and store employees who aren't the ones responsible for my experience; when I hear irritation in my own voice I make a point of telling the operator that I'm sorry they are catching my irritation and that I know they aren't responsible. The manager who helped me today obviously cares about music and musicians and good customer experiences. I think if I had gone in there hot-headed and loud he would have shut down and reverted to The Company script ("I'm very sorry that happened, you can return it"). Instead, we talked reasonable person to reasonable person and found a good solution.
Fair statement but It's up to the customer to decide if he's happy with the end result.As far as the instrument goes, no big deal. HOWEVER, you did NOT get the kid that you agreed to and paid for. That wouldn't sit right with me.
Yeah - I get where you are coming from. And while it isn't my goal to make things easier for The Company. it's not my goal to make things hard for them either. My goal was to get a good drum kit for a fair price. What I paid at first was a fair price for a new kit, what I ended up paying was a fair price for the instrument I received and I'm happy with how things ended up.As far as the instrument goes, no big deal. HOWEVER, you did NOT get the kid that you agreed to and paid for. That wouldn't sit right with me.
stand corrected? how so? (and thanks!)I stand corrected - Glad it worked out for you
Good way to handle this. I don't have to be a jerk to get what I want. Keeping my cool gets me there. Being respectfully persistent and nicely not taking no for an answer, and asking for the next superior manager if I see an impasse works for me.Epilogue: I called the 800 number again today after I didn't hear from the manager who was supposed to call me back. They said another manager would call me back in 30 minutes. They didn't. So I called the local The Company store and talked politely to the manager there - he asked if I could drop by and talk to him in person, no need to bring in the set. When I got there he agreed it was unacceptable, then said he'd either come pick up the set at my house himself or I could keep it and he would give me a substantial discount and new heads. I didn't think the set was damaged, it just wasn't brand new, so I accepted the discount and new heads. The manager was a decent guy and very helpful and I'm glad that I didn't lose my cool with anyone.
I don't think one has to behave like a jerk to get results. I can't bring myself to be rude to operators and store employees who aren't the ones responsible for my experience; when I hear irritation in my own voice I make a point of telling the operator that I'm sorry they are catching my irritation and that I know they aren't responsible. The manager who helped me today obviously cares about music and musicians and good customer experiences. I think if I had gone in there hot-headed and loud he would have shut down and reverted to The Company script ("I'm very sorry that happened, you can return it"). Instead, we talked reasonable person to reasonable person and found a good solution.
Epilogue: I called the 800 number again today after I didn't hear from the manager who was supposed to call me back. They said another manager would call me back in 30 minutes. They didn't. So I called the local The Company store and talked politely to the manager there - he asked if I could drop by and talk to him in person, no need to bring in the set. When I got there he agreed it was unacceptable, then said he'd either come pick up the set at my house himself or I could keep it and he would give me a substantial discount and new heads. I didn't think the set was damaged, it just wasn't brand new, so I accepted the discount and new heads. The manager was a decent guy and very helpful and I'm glad that I didn't lose my cool with anyone.
I don't think one has to behave like a jerk to get results. I can't bring myself to be rude to operators and store employees who aren't the ones responsible for my experience; when I hear irritation in my own voice I make a point of telling the operator that I'm sorry they are catching my irritation and that I know they aren't responsible. The manager who helped me today obviously cares about music and musicians and good customer experiences. I think if I had gone in there hot-headed and loud he would have shut down and reverted to The Company script ("I'm very sorry that happened, you can return it"). Instead, we talked reasonable person to reasonable person and found a good solution.
i was ranting about how you should be... uhh.. quite angry with them to get results and it sounds like you did it in more of a subdued and friendly way. Kudos.stand corrected? how so? (and thanks!)
ah - I thought you were being dramatic, not literal.i was ranting about how you should be... uhh.. quite angry with them to get results and it sounds like you did it in more of a subdued and friendly way. Kudos.
hah, i kinda was, either way, glad to see you got it sorted out.ah - I thought you were being dramatic, not literal.
Nice kit! Use that tree stump to the right of the broom!PS: I tried using an Eames dining chair as a temporary throne - WAY TOO LOW!
Thank you!Nice kit! Use that tree stump to the right of the broom!