Steely Dan Is Not a Band

C. Dave Run said:
Perhaps you need your own thread.
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Until the AUTHOR of this thread Tells me to cease and desist.
You dig? You throw something out there others comment and can take it and run. I'm On Topic yes? no?

Right,.
the two most recent live albums needed aired
 
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jda said:
Until the AUTHOR of this thread Tells me to cease and desist.
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But you are essentially telling @Chris Whitten to cease and desist, or go away if you prefer.

According to your above statement, only the thread starter can do that.

You also told him to start his own thread to make a library of his own thoughts. Your thoughts dominate many threads you have not started.

Only pointing out ironies here.


jda said:
I'm On Topic yes?
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About 35% of the time.
 
C. Dave Run said:
But you...26 posts so far out of 77 (wow!)
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how many were complaining how many were adding
I'm standing for the author of a fun and innocent thread
posted tunes
 
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live and let go
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Great post! That Donnie and Marie video was hilarious.. I'm sure Fagan was hiding under a pillow screaming. As a long time fan with all their albums - I agree they were always just a duo with hired guns.. although in later years seemed to use the same lineup esp. Keith Carlock! So kind of band like.. Not a fan of Fagan personally, after he cancelled a gig I had tickets for but played the night before and the night after - and didn't even say 'sorry'.. just that he had a sore throat. In those days I had to go downtown to the box office to get the tickets so it was a bit of an ordeal.. but he doesn't give a rat's sss about anyone but himself apparently. Having said that I can't help but admire the music. I did see them several years ago with Keith and they were great.
 
When I saw them live they sure looked and sounded like a band to me. And to the Gent above , I certainly don't give a rat's ass!!
 
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Essentially, it's a Dan of the steely variety.

It's sorta in the name guys.
 
If you are a fan of Steely Dan, either as a band -or- a brand, I would highly recommend the following two podcasts. Jeff "Skunk" Baxter was actually in the "Band" for a number of early albums, Gary was their producer for all of their albums up through Gaucho. It is highly likely you will learn something new about the 'Dan. These podcasts are long, extremely in-depth, and really, really interesting.

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Jeff "Skunk" Baxter - The Bob Lefsetz Podcast

The first half is all about Ukraine/Russia/defense and the second half is all about Skunk's musical career. You may or may not know that Skunk has worked with the defense department for decades. As for his musical endeavors...hear the inside story on Steely Dan, the Doobie Brothers and more!
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Gary Katz - The Bob Lefsetz Podcast

Gary Katz produced every Steely Dan album from "Can't Buy a Thrill" to "Gaucho" as well as Donald Fagen's "Nightfly." Listen as we chart Gary's career from Brooklyn to Hollywood, from Bobby Darin to Warner Brothers, with ABC/Dunhill in between. I guarantee you'll learn something about Steely Dan...
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Not following the argument above, but i will use the site resources to say that SD is a band but uses a different model. After they started the band, they later morphed it into a group of revolving session musicians and were aiming for perfection in studio audio recordings.. pretty ruthless with the session people but they were always looking for the right feel for the song. Ask Mark Knoffler what he thought of his experience - they barely used any of his tracks..(I think you can hear 2 notes at the end of his track as it fades ;).
When thet started playing and touring live again I think they appeared to be more of a traditional band model with regular players.. whatever you want to call it.. SD is pretty unique and achieved what they set out to do.. making some of the finest mysic of all time.
Not to everyones tastes though.. some call it elevator music or yaht rock or whatever.. but just dont get it. The ladies, from my experience, generally find it boring..but that doesn’t stop me from playing it!
 
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Sort of a fine line if you are in a band or not, sometimes it’s just playing with people and nothing more and doesn’t need a label…but the difference is as wide as a spouse to a prostitute or full time employee vs temp. Looks the same outside but legally quite different. One would think it is obvious but then you get Portnoy to quit DT to join ASF but realized you were just a hired gun.
 
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ravenson said:
After Countdown to Ecstasy to me, they became more of a brand than a band . Expertly crafted productions afterwards , very precise and .... sterile . In their pursuit of perfection ,studio nerds have this tremendous ability to polish off excellence.
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Becker, and Fagan were studio nerds as much as the sessionists that played for them. What most forget that behind the glass in the booth was Roger Nicholls, the sound engineer. His ability to allow the nuances of instrument play to actually be audible on vinyl may be some of the most defining moments in music history.

the 1977 production of Aja, which won the Grammy for sound engineering. Is not only the best engineered album of 1977, but is the best engineered album before 1977, and may just remain so 100 years from now.

Ricky Marotta who played drums on “Peg”, states emphatically that when he opened his hats at 1/4 of an inch, it was such a subtle sound that he was sure that nobody would hear it including himself. When the 1st vinyl copy of Peg was replayed to him, and he heard his own purposeful subtlety, it blew him away.

When Aja was released on CD, I played a new vinyl copy of it hundreds of times, then I played the new CD copy of it, and any limitation of it showed up on the CD, not on vinyl.
 
Bar band I was in learned " Reelin in the Years " and " Do it Again " . This would have been spring of '74 . Crowd loved these tunes , the cash register was singing a song management loved to hear . I wonder if " Peg " would have had the same impact ? Maybe . Who knows ?
 
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