Your Favorite COB Snare

[timmdrum]

I'm partial to my resonant but sweet-toned Ahead 6x14, and I've played a Pork Pie Big Black brass that was as awesomely Bonham-y as anything named Ludwig.

 

[timmdrum]

Pearl B4514 (Stewart Copeland's Snare of Mysterious Provenance)

Not doubting you, but- source?

 

[Dave_G]

Not doubting you, but- source?

Not his actual snare drum, just the model that he used. I didn't mean to imply that. Mine came dialed in like his. They are really surprising snares that fly under the radar.

 

[RickP]

I have owned Ludwig COB and Rogers Powertone COB and Slingerland and they are all fine drums, but I prefer the black nickle plated Ludwig Black Beauty.
The Black Beauty's nickle plating is thinner than the Chrome plating on the aforementioned snares. I find the COB models are not pleasing to my ear, I prefer aluminum snares like the INDe seamless aluminum or the Noble and Cooley Alloy Classic to COB snares.

 

[jbonzo1]

My pre-serial number Ludwig 5x14 COB is my favorite.
There's just something about that heavy brass shell and overall design of the Ludwig metal snares that work for me. I had a Gretsch 4160 and currently have the Brooklyn 4160 and both are very nice but the Ludwig always wins.
I have a new Super Brass 5x14 on order and can't wait to play it next to my pre-serial drum.

 

[timmdrum]

Not his actual snare drum, just the model that he used. I didn't mean to imply that. Mine came dialed in like his. They are really surprising snares that fly under the radar.

I'm sorry, I should've clarified- I'm asking how you know that Copeland's old snare was a Pearl...?

 

[Bo Eder]

I'm sorry, I should've clarified- I'm asking how you know that Copeland's old snare was a Pearl...?

I think I read Stewart talking about it in an interview some years ago. I need to go back and find that. But I guess it’s semi-documented.

 

[Push pull stroke]

I think I read Stewart talking about it in an interview some years ago. I need to go back and find that. But I guess it’s semi-documented.

Wasn’t it a Pearl Jupiter snare?

 

[williamsbclontz]

Wasn’t it a Pearl Jupiter snare?

I think it was, but that’s hard info to find. Guys can’t really talk about the drums they aren’t endorsed with

I think I remember what interview bo was talking about and I think he mentioned that snare by name. A long interview set in his home studio

 

[Dave_G]

I'm sorry, I should've clarified- I'm asking how you know that Copeland's old snare was a Pearl...?

There's a thread and video here that explains it. It is NOT a Jupiter. The B4514 has a the normal "Gladstone" type strainer. The Jupiter had a parallel action strainer with the rods going through the inside of the drum. That's the big difference, but it's the name you'll see come up when researching this.

 

[Bo Eder]

On this Mike Dolbear video, Stewart Copeland is showing the instruments around his studio, and he displays "the" snare. It looks an awful lot like a Pearl Jupiter. Check it out- it's about 2 minutes into the video.

http://www.drumforum.org/threads/stewart-copeland-and-his-cob-pearl-jupiter.80139/

 

[IBitePrettyHard]

On this Mike Dolbear video, Stewart Copeland is showing the instruments around his studio, and he displays "the" snare. It looks an awful lot like a Pearl Jupiter. Check it out- it's about 2 minutes into the video.

http://www.drumforum.org/threads/stewart-copeland-and-his-cob-pearl-jupiter.80139/

I want a giant room like that, but filled with nothing but drum kits. Cymbals and gear on every kit too, so I wouldn't have to swap every time I sat down at a new kit.

A kit for every mood! I can dream. What's it like Bo? lol.

 

[williamsbclontz]

The B4514 has a the normal "Gladstone" type strainer. The Jupiter had a parallel action strainer with the rods going through the inside of the drum. That's the big difference, but it's the name you'll see come up when researching this.

He’s right, I just found this http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=85333&stc=1&d=1553570592

It looks like it’s almost the same shell, just a different snare setup

 

[Bo Eder]

I want a giant room like that, but filled with nothing but drum kits. Cymbals and gear on every kit too, so I wouldn't have to swap every time I sat down at a new kit.

A kit for every mood! I can dream. What's it like Bo? lol.

It's nice. But I usually have only one set-up at a time. The others are stored and waiting to be played. Copeland's room is his music production studio. I'd love that. He's wired for sound and video in there too.

 

[MrPockets]

So Stewart doesn't even know how he got the Pearl, but he does know the hoops were not original.

https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/stewart-copeland-opens-drumming-career-etc/

 

[paradiddle pete]

Ludwig COB Super 400, with Ludwig batters and 12 strand wires. heads not screwed down too tight. Yeah Baby!

 

[johnwesley]

Always lusted after the early models of the Premier 2000, circa 1967. They switched over to Alum shortly after.

I had a 1968 Premier HiFi COB that was a sweet as they get. Unfortunately a guy offered me twice what I paid for it and I let it go. I regret it to this day.

 

[jdavis]

I bought a new (in 1984) Gretsch 5x14" COB that was an amazing drum. Don't remember the model number, but wish I still had it.

 

[Fred D]

Curious Doug...does it have to be chrome over brass and why? Would a non-chromed brass shell work too?

What is it that the chrome does to change the sound? I really have no idea. If I took a brass shell and chromed it...would it sound different than if I black nickeled the same shell?

Can anyone describe the differences in sound?

Plating brass will brighten up the sound.

 

[abaris]

When I think COB I think Dynasonic. I still have the one my Dad got for me in 1978. Nothing plays like a Dynasonic. I just had it apart for a CLA.