These are worth more than 400 even with the holes. A new cheap Chinese junk Kit goes for more than 400. These Ludwigs are some of the best sounding drums ever. Offer 600.
Sure they are!!!! That was not the point. The point is you can't be afraid to offer what you want to pay for something. Negotiating 101 is you start low, they start high. Then you meet at a price you both agree is a good deal.
Funny OP mentioned $400 because I recently paid $400 for 1968 Ludwig Super Classics in near perfect condition except someone added a Rocker mount and made it a 5 piece. So I got a 5 piece kit, a bunch of hardware and a handful of vintage Zildjians all for $400. The original asking price was $2000. His CL add ran unsuccessfully for a couple of weeks and I watched him steadily drop his price to $1000 "today only". This told me the dude was hard up for $$$.
I never talked price on the phone. That's something you have to do in person. I drove 2 hours with $1000 in my pocket (and a backup just in case it turned into a scene from "Silence of the Lambs"). I figured everything he had was worth the asking if it was all mint.
I was wrong about the Silence of the Lamb thing. It turned out to be like an episode of Hoarders.
Now comes the fun part. They were buried behind a mound of junk and I, in a previous occupation was a professional negotiator who hasn't lost his touch.
After digging and talking, digging and talking (he was a super nice guy) we had the kit pulled out and sitting in the one room (the kitchen) that we could stand in without mounds of clutter.
I initially offer him $200 (an insult yes, but you have to lay down the foundation for negotiations). He quickly refused but came back with $600.
Then he told me he needed $400 or his electricity was getting cut off. So I begrudgingly offered the $400. I packed them up and we departed as friends, exchanging emails and Facebook info.
He lied to me. He didn't need the money for his utility. He needed it to send to his West African Supposed Girlfriend. Had I known I would have never given him the money. But I'm sure someone else would have.