Zildjian K Sweet Crashes - Specific Question

Kuromaku

Kuromaku

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I can't seem to find specs on this - and even eyeballing from pics is difficult because of the lack of consistency in perspective/scale.

Anyone know the size of the bell on K Sweet Crashes on each size from 16"-20"? It looks like there's an appreciable jump in size from the 17" to the 18". The difference b/t the 16" and the 19" is obvious, but I'd like to actually know the size of the bell on each.

I'm not sure I like the extra ringing/wash of the 18" and up, but I do like what looks like a bigger bell on the 18" and up.
 
The 17" has a bell about 4-1/4 inches in diameter whereas the 18" and 19" bells are about 5-1/2 inches in diameter. If anything, the bell on the 18" is a bit bigger than on the 19". I've had two of the 18" crashes and they were both the same so I guess it's by design.
 
Thanks for the information, @yammyfan - why did you use the past tense when referring to your 18s? They crack? You didn’t like something about them?

A few more questions: What other crashes were you mixing them with? And did you consider the 17” or 19”?
 
Kuromaku said:
Thanks for the information, @yammyfan - why did you use the past tense when referring to your 18s? They crack? You didn’t like something about them?

A few more questions: What other crashes were you mixing them with? And did you consider the 17” or 19”?
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Glad to help. :)

I still have an 18" K Sweet crash. The first one I bought was a bit bright compared to the 17" and 19" K Sweets that I already owned so I exchanged it for another one. The replacement crash is a better sonic match with the others. My K Sweet family now consists of 17-18-19 inch crashes, 21" ride and 16" hi-hats. They are phenomenal cymbals - incredibly versatile. I mix them with my 'regular' K Dark Thin crashes.
 
I keep coming back to this option in looking for a complement to a 17" K Custom Dark. The shortlist was K Dark Thin, K Custom Hybrid, and K Sweet. I think I like the brighter side of the K Sweet. So I'm landing on the final decision of the 17" Sweet vs the 18" Sweet.

As I said, I'm drawn to the little bit more brightness in the Sweets and the 17" has more of that I think and the 18" seems to have a little bit too much in dying out. But I'm drawn to the large bell on the 18" for ride/effect options.

Anyone have experience with the 17" or 18" Sweet? Or if you have a KCD, what did you mix it with? @yammyfan - your insights are particularly welcome.
 
Kuromaku said:
I keep coming back to this option in looking for a complement to a 17" K Custom Dark. The shortlist was K Dark Thin, K Custom Hybrid, and K Sweet. I think I like the brighter side of the K Sweet. So I'm landing on the final decision of the 17" Sweet vs the 18" Sweet.

As I said, I'm drawn to the little bit more brightness in the Sweets and the 17" has more of that I think and the 18" seems to have a little bit too much in dying out. But I'm drawn to the large bell on the 18" for ride/effect options.

Anyone have experience with the 17" or 18" Sweet? Or if you have a KCD, what did you mix it with? @yammyfan - your insights are particularly welcome.
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I only have experience with the 19" K Sweet, and it's the bees knees. One of my favorite crashes ever.
 
Kuromaku said:
I keep coming back to this option in looking for a complement to a 17" K Custom Dark. The shortlist was K Dark Thin, K Custom Hybrid, and K Sweet. I think I like the brighter side of the K Sweet. So I'm landing on the final decision of the 17" Sweet vs the 18" Sweet.

As I said, I'm drawn to the little bit more brightness in the Sweets and the 17" has more of that I think and the 18" seems to have a little bit too much in dying out. But I'm drawn to the large bell on the 18" for ride/effect options.

Anyone have experience with the 17" or 18" Sweet? Or if you have a KCD, what did you mix it with? @yammyfan - your insights are particularly welcome.
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The 18 is indeed the brightest of the three and its bell is pretty much identical in size to the 19's. You could use either as a light ride in a pinch.

The 17" was the first K Sweet I bought and it complemented the 16" and 18" K Dark Thin crashes I already had - perfectly. If I had to buy them all over again I'd still choose the 17" first.
 
I have 17 and 19 sweets, the bell on the 19 is quite a bit bigger. I prefer the 19, but the 17 sounds great too. If I were to buy one again I'd pick the 19 first, to my ears it's more bold.
 
The 20" is where the honey is at.
 
I wanted a darker set of cymbals. i've just bought a 17" K Dark crash secondhand. By reading threads on here it seems like the 19" K sweet crash would be a great match. I'm a bit worried about the 19" being a bit too loud for what I'm going to use them for. What do people thin of matching the 17 KDC with an 18" K Sweet or even another 17" K Sweet or the 16" K Sweet?
 
I have a 17" KCD and just got a 17" K Sweet. I went back and forth, but I landed on the 17" because I liked the crisp sound. The 16" was a little too light/fast/simple - and the 18"/19" were a little dirty and rang too long for me personally.

If you're looking for a little bit more of a complex sound, I'd go bigger than the 17".

Obviously although both crashes are the same size, it's apparent that they sound different and it's a really great mix.
 
Kuromaku said:
I have a 17" KCD and just got a 17" K Sweet. I went back and forth, but I landed on the 17" because I liked the crisp sound. The 16" was a little too light/fast/simple - and the 18"/19" were a little dirty and rang too long for me personally.

If you're looking for a little bit more of a complex sound, I'd go bigger than the 17".

Obviously although both crashes are the same size, it's apparent that they sound different and it's a really great mix.
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Thanks. I have a store here but they don't carry all the sizes most times to check out, so any advice is appreciated.Hard to get a sense sometimes from on line samples. I figured two 17" would sound different but not sure by how much - you've answered that.
 
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