DrumEatDrum
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OMG, I LOVE that song.The Quiet One (one of the worst, messiest Who songs ever)?
The Quiet One is one the best songs John ever wrote.
OMG, I LOVE that song.The Quiet One (one of the worst, messiest Who songs ever)?
As a John mini-fan, I like his twist on The Who's writing method, being more riff-heavy and groove-steady than Pete's orchestration. It's sort of like hearing a Roger Taylor song in a Queen album. Ironically, on most John songs, he wrote clean, steady basslines that was "unlike him", but work for the song!OMG, I LOVE that song.
The Quiet One is one the best songs John ever wrote.
I 100% agree.As a John mini-fan, I like his twist on The Who's writing method, being more riff-heavy and groove-steady than Pete's orchestration. It's sort of like hearing a Roger Taylor song in a Queen album. Ironically, on most John songs, he wrote clean, steady basslines that was "unlike him", but work for the song!
On "The Quiet One", I feel I can get what they're "trying" to do, but they couldn't get the swing and dynamics (climaxing too early on), ending up sounding not as clean. Almost feels as if Pete and Kenney were tired after a long session. The snare-centric drum fills on "You" give me a similar impression, but he still manages to punctuate on the crash cymbals at all the right places, just like what Keith did!
FWIW, my favourite John songs are Dangerous, Trick of the Light, and the Had Enough-905 mini-opera. As a Genesis fan, maybe I just like longer, evolving songs that tells a story. Maybe that's why I resonate so much with The Who's "progressive punk" approach.
Just wondering...how much WHO have you listened to? Do you like their music?I've never gotten Keith Moon's drumming.
I just finished watching Drumeo's breakdown of him. I'm still no clearer in understanding why he is so reveered. I cannot stand his drumming style and it is like nails on a chalk board to me. I know I am a minority.
I appreciate that he is doing his drumming thing. I just don't get it. I've never got Keith Moon. Guess I never will.
Just wondering...how much WHO have you listened to? Do you like their music?
Unlike Ringo or Charlie or others Moon played on every single Who song ever recorded up until his early demise. When Who's Next hit the scene in 71(like many great songs/LPs ie Dylan's Like a Rolling Stone or Satisfaction in 65...) it was a totally new sound. Keith's drumming on that LP is excellent I think. Yes, totally frantic but that's The Who. That LP along with Who By Number are my favorites. The latter has grown old the most gracefully I think. You have to go beyond songs like Squeeze Box and Baba O'Reilly and dig in. Some of Moon's tom tom rolls on songs like Hand Or a Face and on obviously loose heads are incredible.
BTW I recently read a piece where Townshend said he has never liked a single thing Led Zeppelin has recorded. He said he knows the guys and likes them but never liked their stuff. Pretty funny. For me Zeppelin some of their stuff I think is great but some of it is just a little to drippy for me. But I digress... Moon is a legend.
What is the analogy of all this with Tony Williams?And no one ever blames Tony Williams because he wasn't as famous...
This led zep “reunion“ was ill conceived from the get-go…….and then someone had the bright idea to make it even more discombobulated by having not 1 but 2 drummers. Page decided it was all Collins fault for how bad this went down. Head scratcherWhat is the analogy of all this with Tony Williams?
I think the poster meant Tony Thompson, not Tony Williams.What is the analogy of all this with Tony Williams?
Oops…I wasn’t even paying attention to the last name part.…good catch. I just remember how bad that performance was and Phil getting tossed under the led zep 747I think the poster meant Tony Thompson, not Tony Williams.
To me it’s simple…Phil didn’t learn the songs or rehearse, Tony rushed everything. Tony also rushed with Power Station that day and rushed when he was on tour with David Bowie. Surprised such a legend in the studio known for laying the fatback had such a big problem with rushing back then.The timing on that section really is deceptively tricky. And both Thompson and Collins are obviously outstanding drummers and both seem to have blamed the other over the years. I've never really sussed out who's at fault because it's so excruciating to listen to.
Man Kenny was/is a phenomenal drummerI’ve actually recently been revisiting the Kenney Jones line up & he gets an unfair press in my book. No, he wasn’t Keith (nobody was) but watching the live shows, particularly 1982, he did a much better job than popular history would have it.
On the albums he just played to the songs Pete was writing at the time. I think Keith would have struggled with Another Tricky Day, for example.
But as I said before, the internet has enough access to isolated drum parts to explode some of the myths about Keith: he could keep time, he didn’t always overplay, he could be restrained…
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I've never heard anyone else say that. I love Tony's playing but he did rush the hell out of his fills.Tony rushed everything. Tony also rushed with Power Station that day and rushed when he was on tour with David Bowie. Surprised such a legend in the studio known for laying the fatback had such a big problem with rushing back then.
Ya, for sure. But as far as Live Aid, I just listened to it again, and nobody except JPJ was blameless. And Paul Martinez, who I once met and hung out with in Stuttgart when I did a couple shows with Dave Edmunds. Never even mentioned that he was up there and I just found out.I've never heard anyone else say that. I love Tony's playing but he did rush the hell out of his fills.
Yeah, my bad.I think the poster meant Tony Thompson, not Tony Williams.
The timing on that section really is deceptively tricky. And both Thompson and Collins are obviously outstanding drummers and both seem to have blamed the other over the years. I've never really sussed out who's at fault because it's so excruciating to listen to.