All my opinion here..I ply unmiced exclusively. Close to studio sound...you can do with heads and muffling. I'd pick walnut or mahogany for a deeper tom sound, if you are set on going for a deeper sounding wood. I guess bubinga would be a deeper sound too. The thing is, going for a studio sound live...they will sound right to you. And only to you. If you are live and unmiced the last thing you want to do is go for a studio sound...at the throne. If you were miced through the PA then a studio sound would work but you're not in a studio and you're not miced. Muffling toms...even the tiniest bit...kills them unmiced. If you like a cardboard tone in the audience, then muffle. I've learned to listen through the overtones and ring from the throne (it's beautiful) because it's those very overtones that carry my drum sound to the back of the room. 10 feet away...unmicd, unmuffled and well tuned toms sound like they are supposed to...amazing. But they will ring at the throne. You are playing to sound good out there in the audience, it's not the same onstage. Unmiced, you can't have both, unless you learn to like the sound of lively ringy toms. The lively toms sound studio in the audience though.
I'd also add that deep sound and studio sounds....not necessarily the same thing. Deep sound (unmiced) comes from deep drums. Studio sound to me means ringy overtones and sustain are out and focus and quick punch are in. Which you can do with any size drum.
So I just ask , what kit do the Tom's sound lowest,deepest full bodied ?
Thank you,
Larry pretty much nailed it. I’d say even more important than the wood type, if you really want deep sounding drums, is to go big. 13”-14” rack toms, 18” floor tom, 24”-26” bass drums.
Just thought I’d add that to my ear the pitch of the drums goes lower when you get further away. What sounds high and ringy behind the kit often sounds deeper and fuller out in the audience. You’re drums might sound deeper in the crowd than you think.
Good thoughts, I've never thought about someone else playing my kit so I can listen from a distance.
Thank you for that . Still want to here different drums. May make trip into NYC dealers to hear larger selections.
Yes, Larry is correct.
I provide my drum kit for the back line kit at a jam. I get to hear my kit played by other drummers. That is how I know Larry is correct.
The only thing I'll add is, use the largest size toms that you can find. Obviously a 14 inch diameter tom will sound deeper than a 10 inch diameter tom. Get large diameter and deep toms; and tune them up rather high so that the sound will carry into the audience. And so that they will be heard over the band.
All my opinion here..I ply unmiced exclusively. Close to studio sound...you can do with heads and muffling. I'd pick walnut or mahogany for a deeper tom sound, if you are set on going for a deeper sounding wood. I guess bubinga would be a deeper sound too. The thing is, going for a studio sound live...they will sound right to you. And only to you. If you are live and unmiced the last thing you want to do is go for a studio sound...at the throne. If you were miced through the PA then a studio sound would work but you're not in a studio and you're not miced. Muffling toms...even the tiniest bit...kills them unmiced. If you like a cardboard tone in the audience, then muffle. I've learned to listen through the overtones and ring from the throne (it's beautiful) because it's those very overtones that carry my drum sound to the back of the room. 10 feet away...unmicd, unmuffled and well tuned toms sound like they are supposed to...amazing. But they will ring at the throne. You are playing to sound good out there in the audience, it's not the same onstage. Unmiced, you can't have both, unless you learn to like the sound of lively ringy toms. The lively toms sound studio in the audience though.
I'd also add that deep sound and studio sounds....not necessarily the same thing. Deep sound (unmiced) comes from deep drums. Studio sound to me means ringy overtones and sustain are out and focus and quick punch are in. Which you can do with any size drum.
Exactly what Larry said. The deepest-sounding drums I've ever heard was a set of high end Pearl mahogany kit - for the life of me I can't remember what series that kit was from.All my opinion here..I ply unmiced exclusively. Close to studio sound...you can do with heads and muffling. I'd pick walnut or mahogany for a deeper tom sound, if you are set on going for a deeper sounding wood. I guess bubinga would be a deeper sound too. The thing is, going for a studio sound live...they will sound right to you. And only to you. If you are live and unmiced the last thing you want to do is go for a studio sound...at the throne. If you were miced through the PA then a studio sound would work but you're not in a studio and you're not miced. Muffling toms...even the tiniest bit...kills them unmiced. If you like a cardboard tone in the audience, then muffle. I've learned to listen through the overtones and ring from the throne (it's beautiful) because it's those very overtones that carry my drum sound to the back of the room. 10 feet away...unmicd, unmuffled and well tuned toms sound like they are supposed to...amazing. But they will ring at the throne. You are playing to sound good out there in the audience, it's not the same onstage. Unmiced, you can't have both, unless you learn to like the sound of lively ringy toms. The lively toms sound studio in the audience though.
I'd also add that deep sound and studio sounds....not necessarily the same thing. Deep sound (unmiced) comes from deep drums. Studio sound to me means ringy overtones and sustain are out and focus and quick punch are in. Which you can do with any size drum.
UHUH!YES. I agree. And yes, get LARGE drums !
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