THE DRUM MICROPHONE / MICROPHONES THREAD

Re: Has anyone installed the MAY mics in their drums without the no-drill adapter?

I have had MayEA in my kick drums since they first came out with them! My first one WAS with the drilless mount, but then I just said to heck with it and installed it straight away.

I also modified the installation a bit by using as short an extension as possible and mounting the Mic as far from the batter head as possible and pointing it directly at the point of impact.

I wanted to allow it to get the OOMPHFF of the drum rather than getting it too close and it being overwhelmed by the attack. I figured it wouldn't be too hard to get high end out of it with it inside the drum but I wanted the option of as much LOW end as possible.

The first one I had had the AKG D12E
http://www.mtsu.edu/~a_e_s/microphone/d12e.htm,
and now I've changed to the AKG D112
http://www.mtsu.edu/~a_e_s/microphone/d112.htm,
they BOTH received RAVE reviews from EVERY sound man I ever worked with.

They're worth every penny I spent on them.

The drums I have had them installed in are as follows ALL drums with full heads NO HOLES!!:

24x16 1980's Gretsch - w/ Emperor batter - Ludwig heavy coated resonant (D12E)

26x14 1950's Slingerland Radio King - w/ Emperor batter - Fiberskyn 3 resonant (D12E)

26x14 1999 Ludwig Classic - w/ Emperor batter - Ludwig heavy coated resonant (D12E)

and currently:
24x14 1970's Ludwig Classic - w/ Emperor batter - Ludwig heavy coated resonant head (D112)
 
Re: Has anyone installed the MAY mics in their drums without the no-drill adapter?

My question is, where can a person actually buy the May mounts these days? They used to carry them at Idaho Percussion, but not any longer. I guess DW gets priority now.
 
Re: Has anyone installed the MAY mics in their drums without the no-drill adapter?

IDDrummer said:
My question is, where can a person actually buy the May mounts these days? They used to carry them at Idaho Percussion, but not any longer. I guess DW gets priority now.
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Here you go:

http://www.interstatemusic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10021&productId=101569

Interstate music has them listed in their catalogs as well.


Mike

http://www.mikemccraw.com
http://www.dominoretroplate.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXMxJw0VnqE


http://www.myspace.com/drummermikemccraw
 
Re: Has anyone installed the MAY mics in their drums without the no-drill adapter?

Vipercussionist said:
I have had MayEA in my kick drums since they first came out with them! My first one WAS with the drilless mount, but then I just said to heck with it and installed it straight away.

I also modified the installation a bit by using as short an extension as possible and mounting the Mic as far from the batter head as possible and pointing it directly at the point of impact.

I wanted to allow it to get the OOMPHFF of the drum rather than getting it too close and it being overwhelmed by the attack. I figured it wouldn't be too hard to get high end out of it with it inside the drum but I wanted the option of as much LOW end as possible.

The first one I had had the AKG D12E
http://www.mtsu.edu/~a_e_s/microphone/d12e.htm,
and now I've changed to the AKG D112
http://www.mtsu.edu/~a_e_s/microphone/d112.htm,
they BOTH received RAVE reviews from EVERY sound man I ever worked with.

They're worth every penny I spent on them.

The drums I have had them installed in are as follows ALL drums with full heads NO HOLES!!:

24x16 1980's Gretsch - w/ Emperor batter - Ludwig heavy coated resonant (D12E)

26x14 1950's Slingerland Radio King - w/ Emperor batter - Fiberskyn 3 resonant (D12E)

26x14 1999 Ludwig Classic - w/ Emperor batter - Ludwig heavy coated resonant (D12E)

and currently:
24x14 1970's Ludwig Classic - w/ Emperor batter - Ludwig heavy coated resonant head (D112)
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mtsu? Middle Tennessee State U?


I use the D112s in my kick drums and my 15" floor tom. SM57s in the rack toms.
I went to this after the drunk chick singer in my band kept tripping over the mic stand, thus tearing the front drum head up! She was fun to look at but hard to be around.

Mike

http://www.mikemccraw.com
http://www.dominoretroplate.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXMxJw0VnqE


http://www.myspace.com/drummermikemccraw
 
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Re: Kick Drum Microphones

most people I know who use drum mics for road and studio use the AKG D112 or the egg as it was nicknamed.

If price is not an issue (lucky bugger) then have a look at beyer dynamic, I think there is also a mic company called pearl, or maybe that's just the name of one of their condenser mics that are about £350 each.

Have a look round, do your research, compare specs etc. and where possible get your hands on one to see if it feels durable/solid construction etc.
 
Re: Has anyone installed the MAY mics in their drums without the no-drill adapter?

IDDrummer said:
My question is, where can a person actually buy the May mounts these days? They used to carry them at Idaho Percussion, but not any longer. I guess DW gets priority now.
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Idaho Percussion can get just about anything - sometimes, though, you have to wait a long, long time. I try to give my business to small local merchants whenever possible but sometimes I have to go to Guitar Center if I want something within two weeks.
 
Re: Has anyone installed the MAY mics in their drums without the no-drill adapter?

Deathmetalconga said:
Idaho Percussion can get just about anything - sometimes, though, you have to wait a long, long time. I try to give my business to small local merchants whenever possible but sometimes I have to go to Guitar Center if I want something within two weeks.
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Yeah, they're great guys, but A) I don't want to wait in limbo forever and B) they say they don't carry them anymore. I'm sure they would try and get one for me, but I'd rather purchase from someplace that actually carries them.

I've purchased 4-5 cymbals, a Roc-n-Soc throne and assorted goodies from Idaho Percussion, but keeping track of unusual orders isn't their forte.
 
Re: Has anyone installed the MAY mics in their drums without the no-drill adapter?

IDDrummer said:
Mike, thanks for the info, but the link won't work. I also tried going directly to the Interstate Music site and doing a search, but I couldn't find the May mounts. :(
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Okay try this then,

Go to

www.interstatemusic.com

Where it says "Order by Catalog number" , type in "MICMAYD112BD" that is the only way I know to get to it on the internet. However, you can also can them at 1-800-in-a -band and order it that way as well. Furthermore, by going over the phone you will be able to order a mic besides the D112, if you so choose.


Mike

http://www.mikemccraw.com
http://www.dominoretroplate.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXMxJw0VnqE
 
Re: Has anyone installed the MAY mics in their drums without the no-drill adapter?

Deathmetalconga said:
I think so. When all is said and done and it's installed, do you still have an airhole one way or the other?
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Unless you drill the shell, yes, you will be going out the venthole, which is what I opted to do as the shell drilling is too permanent (waves-ha) for me. I tried these out in the Kick and Toms on a gig last night and it was pretty impressive!


Mike

http://www.mikemccraw.com
http://www.dominoretroplate.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXMxJw0VnqE
 
Re: Has anyone installed the MAY mics in their drums without the no-drill adapter?

Skitch said:
Unless you drill the shell, yes, you will be going out the venthole, which is what I opted to do as the shell drilling is too permanent (waves-ha) for me. I tried these out in the Kick and Toms on a gig last night and it was pretty impressive!


Mike
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Thanks. But what I really wanted to know was: Is the airhole still operable? Can air still move in and out of it with the mic installed, cable running out, etc.?
 
Re: Has anyone installed the MAY mics in their drums without the no-drill adapter?

Deathmetalconga said:
Thanks. But what I really wanted to know was: Is the airhole still operable? Can air still move in and out of it with the mic installed, cable running out, etc.?
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The AVC isn't an air-tight seal; some air can still move in and out of the drum. The hardware is mostly for asthetic concerns and there is room aroung the cable for air to enter and exit the drum.


Mike

http://www.mikemccraw.com
http://www.dominoretroplate.com

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXMxJw0VnqE
 
Re: Kick Drum Microphones

I have been using the Audix D6 for a few years and I have never been happier with a kick drum mic. Almost every single show some sound guy mentions the kick sound at some point. And the reaction is usually the same: "Oh no wonder, it's an Audix".

I have tried/owned most of the others like the D112, Sennheiser E602, Audio-Technica AE2500 and the Beta 52, but the Audix has this EQ'd sound right out of the box that is simply incredible. What they basically did is scooped the mids, added some punch somewhere around 50-80hz., and added some snap in the upper mids/low highs. Awesome click and articulation -- and deep, tube-like low end is the result with no EQ at all. And the overall sound is massive.

Even if your drum doesn't sound all that great in the room, it will now. You can tweak the sound response a little bit just by moving the placement in relation to the beater. Some of the other mics I listed sound similar on any kick you throw it in. The D6 has the magic ability to not only clearly distinguish between different shell types and sizes, but also make drums that don't sound all that great within the acoustics of a given room....sound great. I am not saying that this mic will make your 1982 CB 700 kick drum sound like a GMS Grand Master tweaked by Drum Doctors, but it is definately very forgiving.

If you don't have the EQ capability on your board, or you just don't want to fiddle with a bunch of stuff to get a great kick sound, get the D6. If you can justify spending $180-200 on one, look no further -- this is the golden child.

Brad
 
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