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Ludwig chrome over brass supraphonic. It's perfection. All I would ever need is that, plus a Craviotto maple snare.
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Ludwig chrome over brass supraphonic. It's perfection. All I would ever need is that, plus a Craviotto maple snare.
Someone please tell me what a Ludwig Supraphonic Black Beauty snare is. I see them all the time on Ebay. ????
They're not usually referred to as "Supraphonic", but they can be ordered with the same lugs and strainers as a regular Supraphonic, so that may be why you've seen them called by that name. Black Beauty snares are made of nickel plated brass shells.
Those 60's BB's are holy grails. The current/new ones are nothing like them.
They're not usually referred to as "Supraphonic", but they can be ordered with the same lugs and strainers as a regular Supraphonic, so that may be why you've seen them called by that name.
Thank you for the nice information and the history lesson.I'll say. No holier grail than something that never existed in the first place.
The new ones are remarkably different. You can actually play one of them.
I dare say the snare you're referring to is an early 60's Super COB.
Although the term "Supraphonic" is more widely recognised as referring to the LM400 and LM402 COA shell, originally the term Supraphonic denoted the snare mechanism. Ludwig offered two kinds.....a Supraphonic and a Super-sensitive. If it wasn't the SS then it was the Supra. Given that the Acro used the Supraphonic mechanism yet was never called a "Supra" and subsequent inclusions of shell materials like bronze and brass are sometimes called bronze Supra's or COB Supra's.....or even Black Beauty Supras, it's the cause of so much confusion you can turn yourself inside out trying to keep up with it all. It causes more head scratching than it's worth half the time. But that's the history of the term nonetheless.
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I'll say. No holier grail than something that never existed in the first place.
The new ones are remarkably different. You can actually play one of them.
I dare say the snare you're referring to is an early 60's Super COB.
Although the term "Supraphonic" is more widely recognised as referring to the LM400 and LM402 COA shell, originally the term Supraphonic denoted the snare mechanism. Ludwig offered two kinds.....a Supraphonic and a Super-sensitive. If it wasn't the SS then it was the Supra. Given that the Acro used the Supraphonic mechanism yet was never called a "Supra" and subsequent inclusions of shell materials like bronze and brass are sometimes called bronze Supra's or COB Supra's.....or even Black Beauty Supras, it's the cause of so much confusion you can turn yourself inside out trying to keep up with it all. It causes more head scratching than it's worth half the time. But that's the history of the term nonetheless.
The impossible,just became possible,and just when you think you have this stuff down pat,you get proven wrong.It just goes to show,nobody knows everything,and you learn something every day,especially with drums that shouldn't exist.....but do.I know,I have a few.
Steve B
My first thought is; Will there be a test on this later?
Thank you for the information.
Well, this settles it for me. The only important thing is, do I like the sound of the drum or not. And do I like the looks of the drum.
I guess finding that perfect sounding snare drum is quite like finding that perfect sounding guitar or violin.
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LOL...even if there's a test,the answers can change on a dime.Things we thought were true and undeniable,are no longer.But that...makes life interesting...no?
As far as the Black Beauty,all that I can say is ,the drum is legendary for a reason.But if I recall,you own a Super Ludwig 400.It was your dads drum ,yes.They too are awesome drums,and sound very vintage Black Beautiyish.
If you're looking for another metal shelled drum,go bronze,or possibly copper.Much warmer than steel,with little exception.
Steve B