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Free floating vs lugged drums
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sticks4drums
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So glad to see you in a better mood my friend.Let me take this.
They are Canadian buttstrap killers. He trains them to zero in on Canadian buttstraps and poop on their heads. If one of these buttstraps has Mapexes, the birds are trained to peck holes in them for XLR jacks. He feeds them shredded up Saturn drums. Arctic White ones are their FAVORITE flavor.
Andy
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Nice one Larry!Let me take this.
They are Canadian buttstrap killers. He trains them to zero in on Canadian buttstraps and poop on their heads. If one of these buttstraps has Mapexes, the birds are trained to peck holes in them for XLR jacks. He feeds them shredded up Saturn drums. Arctic White ones are their FAVORITE flavor.
We posted almost at the same time. The "buttstrap" returns!!Glad you found my post informative Larry. Of course, it's only one opinion based on testing. I'm sure others could get different results.
I'm doing some A - B testing with Dean next week. Standard (awesome) Guru walnut stave tom vs. new (unknown quantity) Guru tom. Identical in every way except the lug/tensioning system. Should be either an eye opener, or a huge fail. There's no half measures in what we do. "Shoot for the stars" I say, then if you fail, you've still passed planets that others can only dream of! (not Saturn, obviously).
Larry
"Uncle Larry"
Ha ha thanks 8Mile...No one has really followed up on any of Tards stuff, I always thought that the Peavey Radial design was sound...and I'm not usually conserned that much about looks...but the Radials just look so goofy...It's the AMC Pacer of drums lol. Sorry Tard, I bet they sound great though.
Andy
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And that's very true, in fact, it's when you decide to test stuff that theoretically shouldn't work well, that the real surprises pop up out of nowhere. Equally, there's some big surprises when you really test out some very established theories, only to find they're either application specific, or just plain wrong.
They do indeed sound good Larry, in fact, better than almost any current production ply shell kit you can name, at any price point. That's if you value extreme dynamic range & sustain, especially in the quieter registers. They're not for everyone of course, but they are a most valid design with unique sonic benefits. I really do believe that these drums, above all others, totally prove that most players are brand biased & buy with their eyes before their ears. Nothing wrong with that, but surprisingly few will actually admit it's the truth.
Chaos_Inferno
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Reading this thread gets my hopes up that once I have my engineering degree I'll be able to eventually jump into the world of drum construction, provided I find the right "teachers" to "study" under...
Oh, pipe dreams...
Oh, pipe dreams...
tard
Gold Member
No apology necessary as I think lugs are goofy, so were even...lol, JK... And yes they do sound great. I had sold my tama rockstars to buy them and eventually sold my pearl masters and my yamaha maple custom absolutes due to the fact that I basically stopped playing them after buying the radials.
BTW Whitney drums have a similar design except the "bridge" (or whatever their term is for it) is internal allowing the shell to be larger than the head size. Plus the ends come off to allow them to be nested for transport although I would imagine it would be quite heavy once there all stacked together. One thing puzzles me though, why build a lugless drum and then drill hole in it for the mounting bracket.
http://whitneydrums.com/wp/
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Andy
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Yes. In terms of dynamic range, high quality steam bent shells with low mass lugs & triple flange hoops get close.