3/4over5/4
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thanks captian quebec, i usually am not a big fan of drum magazine but the alot of that seems like it will be really helpful
Blast beats
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Super Fast Blast Beats.(Metal Drummers Enter!)
I am trying to build speed on my blast beats, but the speed isn't improving much. When I do them with the snare and ride being hit at the same time, I can do them pretty fast, but the same speed with alternating hits, but when I do the same time ones, they wear down my pecs like crazy. Any exercises to build speed specifically for blast beats?
I need a little more speed on the blasts for Funeral Thirst (Black Dahlia Murder), but I am no where close to Flo Mounier (Cryptopsy's Drummer)'s speed. I was think of getting his dvd where he goes over the exercises.
I am trying to build speed on my blast beats, but the speed isn't improving much. When I do them with the snare and ride being hit at the same time, I can do them pretty fast, but the same speed with alternating hits, but when I do the same time ones, they wear down my pecs like crazy. Any exercises to build speed specifically for blast beats?
I need a little more speed on the blasts for Funeral Thirst (Black Dahlia Murder), but I am no where close to Flo Mounier (Cryptopsy's Drummer)'s speed. I was think of getting his dvd where he goes over the exercises.
aahznightsky
Pioneer Member
Re: Super Fast Blast Beats.(Metal Drummers Enter!)
i never knew what a blast beat was .... is that just a name for hand-foot single stroke rolls? i have suggestions if it is but i dont really know what a blast beat is!
i never knew what a blast beat was .... is that just a name for hand-foot single stroke rolls? i have suggestions if it is but i dont really know what a blast beat is!
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Slayer_metal_head
Guest
Re: Super Fast Blast Beats.(Metal Drummers Enter!)
Okay first off what kind of blast beats are you talking about. Well my favourite blast beat is the grindcore but i ride both the beats (over the snare and the bass) and also the double bass grindcore ( basically really fast snare and hihat with a ripping double bass) after you get your speed up you also need to be able to accent with the cymbal while doing the blast beat.
Okay basically do your average paradiddles and other stuff at gradually increasing speeds. also i have a few wrist exersizes but i dont explain them with words and i dont have a video camera.
bye the "same time ones" do you mean gravity blast beats it helps if you have a double bass pedal and just do slow quads and try to ride the snare and the ride at the same time as fast as you can. but i dont have any exercises to explain online.
Just doa ll the blast beats slow then gradually speed up.
Okay first off what kind of blast beats are you talking about. Well my favourite blast beat is the grindcore but i ride both the beats (over the snare and the bass) and also the double bass grindcore ( basically really fast snare and hihat with a ripping double bass) after you get your speed up you also need to be able to accent with the cymbal while doing the blast beat.
Okay basically do your average paradiddles and other stuff at gradually increasing speeds. also i have a few wrist exersizes but i dont explain them with words and i dont have a video camera.
bye the "same time ones" do you mean gravity blast beats it helps if you have a double bass pedal and just do slow quads and try to ride the snare and the ride at the same time as fast as you can. but i dont have any exercises to explain online.
Just doa ll the blast beats slow then gradually speed up.
Tutin
Pioneer Member
Re: Super Fast Blast Beats.(Metal Drummers Enter!)
I play lots of blast beats, the key to going faster with them is touse just your fingers, keep the thumb on top of the stick (not to the side) you may need to use a bit of wrist on the ride. Moeller methods do work though, just take a bit longer to get.
I play lots of blast beats, the key to going faster with them is touse just your fingers, keep the thumb on top of the stick (not to the side) you may need to use a bit of wrist on the ride. Moeller methods do work though, just take a bit longer to get.
BlackAttack
Junior Member
Blast Beats
can someone explain what they are to me?
can someone explain what they are to me?
sovereign_76
Junior Member
Re: Blast Beats
From www.derekroddy.com
follow Derek link, then Derek's FAQ
What is a blast beat and how would you count or write it out?
Ah, the ever-popular blast beat. A blast would break down as alternating straight 8th notes with the ride or hat and the kick drum on the down beats (or ones) and straight 8 th notes with the snare on the up beats (or ands). This makes a 16th note single stroke roll. I like to count blast tempos as 16th notes at higher bpm's. This way you hear more clicks and there's not so much open space between the beats as when you count them as 32nd notes. 16th's at 250 bpm's = 32nd's at 125 bpm's.
bodymore, murderland.....muhahaha
From www.derekroddy.com
follow Derek link, then Derek's FAQ
What is a blast beat and how would you count or write it out?
Ah, the ever-popular blast beat. A blast would break down as alternating straight 8th notes with the ride or hat and the kick drum on the down beats (or ones) and straight 8 th notes with the snare on the up beats (or ands). This makes a 16th note single stroke roll. I like to count blast tempos as 16th notes at higher bpm's. This way you hear more clicks and there's not so much open space between the beats as when you count them as 32nd notes. 16th's at 250 bpm's = 32nd's at 125 bpm's.
bodymore, murderland.....muhahaha
BlackAttack
Junior Member
Re: Blast Beats
wow lol ok, thanks alot
wow lol ok, thanks alot
sovereign_76
Junior Member
Re: Blast Beats
also from derek roddy
#2. (I'm going to get in trouble for this one) there's way too much editing going on these days in the studios. Not all we hear on record is what was played. Even some of the records you guys are talking about on this very forum!!!!!!!! I've seen it first hand! You can take somebody that doesn't even play drums and make them sound like a god. You can fix bass drums or entire drum parts that fell apart during the recording, you can play the kick drum in half time and go back and add the other kick notes by hand, and the new big thing is “punching in” to achieve more consistent tempos. Why do most metal musicians write music they can't even make it through in one take or make it through it at all! And how could you be proud of something that you know deep in your heart that didn't really play??????? Anybody that knows me knows that I'm really against punching in and editing drum parts. I had to punch in on Nile's “black seeds” record because I had 2 days to learn and record 7 songs. I wish I could have had the time to learn the music and write some good drum parts. Maybe then I would have been more satisfied with the end result.
I know of one recording (which is mentioned on my forum as being “some of the most extreme drumming ever!!!” The infamous drummer came in played 4 bars of every type of blast and double bass beat known to man, along with various fills. The entire record was assembled by looping the drum parts together with pro tools! Yea, that's brutal. If something doesn't sound humanly possible to play, you have to say to yourself that it probably wasn't. You really get a good idea of how drummers really play by seeing them live. You can't fix anything then.
also from derek roddy
#2. (I'm going to get in trouble for this one) there's way too much editing going on these days in the studios. Not all we hear on record is what was played. Even some of the records you guys are talking about on this very forum!!!!!!!! I've seen it first hand! You can take somebody that doesn't even play drums and make them sound like a god. You can fix bass drums or entire drum parts that fell apart during the recording, you can play the kick drum in half time and go back and add the other kick notes by hand, and the new big thing is “punching in” to achieve more consistent tempos. Why do most metal musicians write music they can't even make it through in one take or make it through it at all! And how could you be proud of something that you know deep in your heart that didn't really play??????? Anybody that knows me knows that I'm really against punching in and editing drum parts. I had to punch in on Nile's “black seeds” record because I had 2 days to learn and record 7 songs. I wish I could have had the time to learn the music and write some good drum parts. Maybe then I would have been more satisfied with the end result.
I know of one recording (which is mentioned on my forum as being “some of the most extreme drumming ever!!!” The infamous drummer came in played 4 bars of every type of blast and double bass beat known to man, along with various fills. The entire record was assembled by looping the drum parts together with pro tools! Yea, that's brutal. If something doesn't sound humanly possible to play, you have to say to yourself that it probably wasn't. You really get a good idea of how drummers really play by seeing them live. You can't fix anything then.
drumz4eva
Senior Member
Re: blast beat trouble
hmm...
mabye....do u no the finger technique ( im not sure if thats wut its called, but its a technique thats all in the fingers....no wrist no nothing )
i use that one,....and man i can rip with one hand!!
but if not.....then really all there is...is to work on that right hand..
match it up with ur left....
do w/e u want to do.....paraiddles, different techniques....(i can explain the finger technique further if u need so......
but practice is the key.....and start to try to mabye devolope the moeller with ur right hand
good luck!
~mat~
hmm...
mabye....do u no the finger technique ( im not sure if thats wut its called, but its a technique thats all in the fingers....no wrist no nothing )
i use that one,....and man i can rip with one hand!!
but if not.....then really all there is...is to work on that right hand..
match it up with ur left....
do w/e u want to do.....paraiddles, different techniques....(i can explain the finger technique further if u need so......
but practice is the key.....and start to try to mabye devolope the moeller with ur right hand
good luck!
~mat~
artraxy- eddie
Junior Member
Re: blast beat trouble
well what i have to say is i had the same problum with my leftbut i just started slower with it sometimes thats all i would do is play with my left then after a few months it went away but thats me well i hope i helped try it ittommy said:
drumz4eva
Senior Member
Re: blast beat trouble
lol i have exactly wut u have....i can like spaz out....and just like blast...lol
but it is possible to do the moeller techinque with ur right hand....i do it, along with my left.......
heres a great video of this guy explaining it...
im to lazy to post a video by my self
www.derrickpope.net/moellertechnique.wmv
lol i have exactly wut u have....i can like spaz out....and just like blast...lol
but it is possible to do the moeller techinque with ur right hand....i do it, along with my left.......
heres a great video of this guy explaining it...
im to lazy to post a video by my self
www.derrickpope.net/moellertechnique.wmv
beatsMcGee
Pioneer Member
Re: blast beat trouble
i hope when you guys refer to your playing as "spazed" that is just your way of discribing controlled finger movement.. if not id break away from the spazed movements into a more controlled finger technique.. sorry if i just misunderstood you.
good luck
i hope when you guys refer to your playing as "spazed" that is just your way of discribing controlled finger movement.. if not id break away from the spazed movements into a more controlled finger technique.. sorry if i just misunderstood you.
good luck
a1DrummerT
Senior Member
Re: blast beat trouble
u have a control issue...slow down and work on playing w/ out the accents untill you feel comfortable doing it then speed up..
also try beginning ur rolls with ur left hand to strengthen and gain conrol
tommy said:
u have a control issue...slow down and work on playing w/ out the accents untill you feel comfortable doing it then speed up..
also try beginning ur rolls with ur left hand to strengthen and gain conrol
Remopinstripe
Member
Re: blast beat trouble
as said by a1drummert you have control issues. I think your issues are that you are not using proper technique as described before as the (finger technique) which really isn't a technique its the way the drum strick should be used. also with rist snap ofcorse. but always play the fisrt beat with rist then on rebound use finger snap. if you can do that with motion with rist your set but with both it is more solid exceptially for doubles.
as said by a1drummert you have control issues. I think your issues are that you are not using proper technique as described before as the (finger technique) which really isn't a technique its the way the drum strick should be used. also with rist snap ofcorse. but always play the fisrt beat with rist then on rebound use finger snap. if you can do that with motion with rist your set but with both it is more solid exceptially for doubles.