skod
Senior Member
Just a cautionary tale here... In a fit of nostalgia I just bought a nice older strap-drive DW5000 double pedal on eBay, and it was listed in excellent condition. It certainly *looked* brand-new, with essentially no visible wear on the footboards or baseplates. But when I set the pedals out on the bench to check them, I found that all the shaft bearings were essentially seized. The larger diameter bearings that support the drive shaft were solidly seized: the shafts were actually turning within the inner race! The smaller bearings (which in this design are typically fastened solidly to the shaft with a jam nut) were sort of movable, ish. But the pedal's action was pretty much mired in concrete.
I stripped the whole pedal down, felt how sticky things were, sniffed carefully, and realized what had happened. For some perverse reason, the previous owner had lubricated the shaft bearings with _vegetable oil_. That's right: cooking oil. Unfortunately, vegetable oil is not stable, and oxidizes into stiff grease and eventually something somewhat akin to *amber* in contact with air. I soaked the bearings in xylene in the ultrasonic cleaner for a couple of days to try to dissolve the oxidized grease, with little success. The roller bearings in the spring rockers and the U-joints in the driveshaft could be salvaged, since they seemed to have avoided the Mazola bath- but the mains are just flat gone.
This pedal probably survived no more than 1 week after that stuff was applied until it started getting stiff. No wonder the spring tensions were maxed out. And then it went into the previous owner's junkbox until it was eBay time, with the oil slowly turning into concrete. Sad. That's why it looked so good- it became unplayable very quickly. Otherwise, it really was a nice pedal, and it will be again.
So fresh bearings are on the way for the rebuild. And my advice, and the reason for this post, would be: when you do your preventive maintenance on your pedals, no matter what manufacturer, please use a stable industrial lubricant. I personally like a light oil like Mobil 1 0W-40 (since I have it around), as I think a very light application of oil makes things run slightly smoother than grease. Other folks like lithium grease, or PTFE grease, or sewing machine oil, or Marvel Mystery Oil, or whatnot- all good products. The important thing is to make sure that whatever you use was designed for persistently and stably lubricating *metal-on-metal* parts, not French fries or babies' butts... (;-)
And, BTW- as other people have observed, that "persistently" requirement leaves WD-40 out. It does evaporate away over a relatively short period of time, leaving you nothing useful behind. It was designed for water displacement (thus, the WD name), and then needed to be replaced by a persistent lubricant. So it is at best a band-aid (and sometimes a session-saver), but it is not a long-term answer.
First time I'd ever seen anything like that: you learn something new every day... Play safe out there!
I stripped the whole pedal down, felt how sticky things were, sniffed carefully, and realized what had happened. For some perverse reason, the previous owner had lubricated the shaft bearings with _vegetable oil_. That's right: cooking oil. Unfortunately, vegetable oil is not stable, and oxidizes into stiff grease and eventually something somewhat akin to *amber* in contact with air. I soaked the bearings in xylene in the ultrasonic cleaner for a couple of days to try to dissolve the oxidized grease, with little success. The roller bearings in the spring rockers and the U-joints in the driveshaft could be salvaged, since they seemed to have avoided the Mazola bath- but the mains are just flat gone.
This pedal probably survived no more than 1 week after that stuff was applied until it started getting stiff. No wonder the spring tensions were maxed out. And then it went into the previous owner's junkbox until it was eBay time, with the oil slowly turning into concrete. Sad. That's why it looked so good- it became unplayable very quickly. Otherwise, it really was a nice pedal, and it will be again.
So fresh bearings are on the way for the rebuild. And my advice, and the reason for this post, would be: when you do your preventive maintenance on your pedals, no matter what manufacturer, please use a stable industrial lubricant. I personally like a light oil like Mobil 1 0W-40 (since I have it around), as I think a very light application of oil makes things run slightly smoother than grease. Other folks like lithium grease, or PTFE grease, or sewing machine oil, or Marvel Mystery Oil, or whatnot- all good products. The important thing is to make sure that whatever you use was designed for persistently and stably lubricating *metal-on-metal* parts, not French fries or babies' butts... (;-)
And, BTW- as other people have observed, that "persistently" requirement leaves WD-40 out. It does evaporate away over a relatively short period of time, leaving you nothing useful behind. It was designed for water displacement (thus, the WD name), and then needed to be replaced by a persistent lubricant. So it is at best a band-aid (and sometimes a session-saver), but it is not a long-term answer.
First time I'd ever seen anything like that: you learn something new every day... Play safe out there!