The legs fold into the side of the bass drum & offer a very low profile. So low in fact, you can put these bass drums into cases one size down (i.e. you can fit a 22" drum into a 20" case )Just curious, how flat do these legs fold in? Can you still get the drum in a case without removing them?
I must admit, we can't match the flexibility of a telescopic leg, but you can easily accommodate any reasonable level drift. We might offer a telescopic spike only option in the future.Since you asked for opinions...One thing that concerns me is that there is no telescopic element in the legs. I know some drummers who raise the front of their kick up like 3 inches. It seems like you would have to fold the spurs more into the body, making the leg be on an angle instead of plumb. Does this design allow for wacky bass drum angles?
Thanks Bob. A memory lock is on it's way, & when ready, will retrofit existing legs.I love the design of the legs.
I would like see a memory lock as well as a single wing nut to tighten the leg into the mount.
I don't like to have to take out a drum key when setting up.
Thanks Rubber end is on the fitting. You screw the end fitting up & down to expose the spike, or alternatively the rubber end.Very nice and you are right saying very elegant! Myself, I rarely use spikes. Would there be some sort of a rubber end cap? Maybe a conversion?
TBH, the fact that these brackets don't attach to the shell, & our priority being mass reduction for sonic performance reasons, does mean some slight setup convenience compromises are there. We prefer the advantages of the bass drum being half the weight of any comparable drum, being able to fit in a case one size down, & the sonic advantages of low mass.
I must admit, we can't match the flexibility of a telescopic leg, but you can easily accommodate any reasonable level drift. We might offer a telescopic spike only option in the future.
A memory lock is on it's way, & when ready, will retrofit existing legs.
Now to functionality:
The legs fold into the side of the bass drum & offer a very low profile. So low in fact, you can put these bass drums into cases one size down (i.e. you can fit a 22" drum into a 20" case )
In terms of drum cases - yes. Modern cases are designed to accommodate bulky modern shell hardware, and are generously proportioned. Our minimal mass profiles are compact, & that allows the use of cases one size down on some drums. It does vary from case manufacturer to manufacturer though, & typically applies to the larger drums. Our 16" floor toms will fit into a PR 14" AAA case (just), but bass drums easily fit into one size down. Aligned with their very low weight, that's a real hauling bonus IMOYou mean they actually shrink the drum down a size? How does that work?
We've toyed with indents, but height is adjusted by degrees of rotation. Our bass drum hoops are fitted with a separate pedal clamp plate, & not subject to twisting.I do really like the swing out design. My Safari has that kind of leg and if it had some detents so that it just snapped into an "out" position, it would be great.
After watching the Bob Gatzen video about twisting the hoop by raising the front of the kick, I've endeavored to keep mine as level as possible. Not that your hoops would twist as much, but why do that to them?
Negs are good Larry. As with everything, we grow & progress by taking negs on board & running with themAnother concern I have is the rubber ring for those who don't use the spike. There's not much rubber there, and I am wondering how long it will last before wearing down. Sorry for the negs Andy, but I know you want to hear feedback. This is what happens when you don't consult me before beginning production lol. I don't really mean that lol.
The standard legs typically allow raising the front of the bass drum by about 1" if needed. We view anything more than that to be excessive, & not recommended use of our drums.Those legs looks gorgeous Andy, yes telescopic leg could/will be bonus for those (like me) who raise the front of the BD by 1/2 an inch
Spur mounting brackets (& floor tom brackets) are attached to the external rering (as you can see on the photo below), not the resonating portion of the shell or the hoops. No knurling required. The legs are large diameter (1/2"), & there's plenty of surface area for grip. Yes, the end fitting screws up & down to expose the spike, but it doesn't need a locking nut. It has a very simple tension system that keeps it static. Just wind it to the desired position, & it will stay putso those mounts are not attached to the drum? just the hoop I guess? . also, any knurling of the post to avoid slippage? I assume you screw the entire bottom unit upward to expose the spike, any lock so that doesn't happen when not wanted?
A+ for looks and design.
Wow, they almost look like hi end kitchen faucets!
So elegant, yet simple.