Ok I understand sound of a cymbal can be a personal choice. I probably will be buying my zildjians second hand and would love some advice from you guys on what series is worth a look in as far as build quality, Longevity etc goes. The B8 sabians i got with my kit are crap and i dont want to go down that road again with the zildjian brand. As my b8 pack up i want to replace them with quality s/h zildjians. So what do u guys rate?