Your Paiste Cymbal Rig

Quai34

Junior Member

type85

Member
Yes, that's why I'm not a big fan, I'm more of a jazz/Funk/jazz rock/pop/dance guy than a rock guy. You're right, that sound too rock for me, maybe brittle is not the right term, sorry for my English.

I think you mean too "bright".

Brittle: "hard but liable to break or shatter easily"
 

jaymandude

Active Member
2002’s ‘Brittle’? 🤔 just how hard do You hit them. They’re designed for Rock. I can see the 602’s being Brittle.
Depending on how you hear. What if brittle were bright ? Or aggressive? Which is how I hear them.

602’s feel softer, certainly less brittle. Just saying..
 

Quai34

Junior Member
I think you mean too "bright".

Brittle: "hard but liable to break or shatter easily"
Yes, of course, I thought about a glass for brittle, thinking about the sound of the glass when it breaks but didn't pay attention that you use it only when it really breaks!!!
 

Out of Round

Active Member
Lately, a variation on a 2-crash theme based in both cases on the 22" 2002 Ride and the 15" 2002 SoundEdge Hi-Hats and dependant on room size, or at least that's the plan:

- 17" 2002 Crash
- 18" Giant Beat Multi
Or
- 19" 2002 Crash
- 20" Giant Beat Multi

These voicings with a one inch difference sound really good to me, after always using, if I recall, a two inch, even-numbered difference between crashes. And the versatility of the GB is nice to have. Good times.
 
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iCe

Silver Member
Oh man... i was waiting for the Signature Sound Edge hats to be in stock, checked the app yesterday and they were! So i wanted to order those together with the 22" Dry Heavy Ride and the 18+19 Full Crashes only to find out that the Dry Heavy Ride is out of stock 🥺

So think i'm going to order the rest of the next few weeks, but wanted to order everything at once
 

yammyfan

Senior Member
Lately, a variation on a 2-crash theme based in both cases on the 22" 2002 Ride and the 15" 2002 SoundEdge Hi-Hats and dependant on room size, or at least that's the plan:

- 17" 2002 Crash
- 18" Giant Beat Multi
Or
- 19" 2002 Crash
- 20" Giant Beat Multi

These voicings with a one inch difference sound really good to me, after always using, if I recall, a two inch, even-numbered difference between crashes. And the versatility of the GB is nice to have. Good times.
Funny... I've been doing the same thing lately, playing 2002s with a one inch difference instead of the more customary two inches.

I'm currently using a 19" and 20" 2002 crash along with the 24" ride and 15" SE hi-hats. The 19" is possibly my favourite 2002 crash.
 

PaisteGuy

Active Member
Funny... I've been doing the same thing lately, playing 2002s with a one inch difference instead of the more customary two inches.

I'm currently using a 19" and 20" 2002 crash along with the 24" ride and 15" SE hi-hats. The 19" is possibly my favourite 2002 crash.
I completely agree, there’s something special about the 19” in that line.
 

jaymandude

Active Member
I wonder why "glassy" is the term used to describe the sound
Mahogany is “warmer “because of the absence of highs. I suspect to many people the reverse is true for 2002’s. Absence of mids and lower cymbal frequencies emphasizes high end. And so… “glassy”. You know this I suspect:)

Would you prefer “bright “ ?
 
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GretschedHive

Silver Member
I wonder why "glassy" is the term used to describe the sound?
As @jaymandude suggested, I'd think "bright" could work just as well. But I've heard Paiste 2002s described as "glassy" so many times from different sources. I just googled "paiste 2002" "glassy", to make sure I wasn't misremembering, and found it described that way at such places as Sweetwater, Drum Center of Portsmith, Thomann, Musician's Friend and Memphis Drum Shop, so I guess I wasn't.

Huh. I just went to Paiste.com and searched for "glassy" and, sure enough, they use the adjective as well. It's official!
 

iCe

Silver Member
Just ordered the Signature 14" Sound Edge hats. Should be here just in time for rehearsal next week and then have another rehearsal in the "30 days full refund period" to see if these are the ones. Still on the prowl for the 22" Dry Heavy Ride though, seems to be out of stock everywhere at the moment (with a 6-8 week wait time now). After that probably will get the Full Crashes.
 

Elvis

Silver Member
Mahogany is “warmer “because of the absence of highs. I suspect to many people the reverse is true for 2002’s. Absence of mids and lower cymbal frequencies emphasizes high end. And so… “glassy”. You know this I suspect:)

Would you prefer “bright “ ?
Because it goes beyond "bright" and its a good descriptive of some of the sound qualities of the Signature series.
 

Black Label

Senior Member
I own the following Paistes:

8” 2002 bell

10” 2000 splash

10” Dimensions Power Splash

11” Dimensions Thin Splash

12” Signature Splash

14” 400 hats

14” 2002 Heavy Hats

14” 2002 Sound Edge Hats

14” Signature Power Hats

14” Signature Dark Energy Mk1 Hats

14" 602 Sound Edge Hats (pre-serial)

15” Twenty Custom Metal Hats

15” Dimensions Power Hats

15” Rude Hats

15” 2002 Sound Edge Hats

16” Twenty Crash

16” Dixie Crash

18” Twenty Crash

18” Signature Power Crash

18” Signature Full Crash

18” Giant Beat Multi

18” Stambul 65

18” 602 Medium

18” 2002 Medium

18” 900 series colorsound china (blue)

19” 2002 crash

20” 2002 Ride

20” 2002 Medium

20” 2002 Deep Ride

20” Signature Full Ride

20” Signature Power Ride

20” 502 Ride

20” Alpha Ride

20” Twenty Ride

20” 404 Ride

20” Giant Beat Multi

20” Dixie Medium Thin

20” 602 Thin Crash (pre-serial)

20” 602 Thin Crash (1974)

22” 602 Medium (1974)

22” 2002 Ride

22” 602 Dark Ride

22” Signature Dark Energy Mk1 Ride

22” 2002 China Type

24” 602 Medium

24” 2002 Medium

At the moment, I have set up:

14" 602 Vintage Sound Edge

18" Signature Full Crash

20" Signature Full Ride

18" 200s Medium

18" 900 Colorsound China

But tomorrow it may change again, although I do find this combo extremely versatile.
 

GnarlyBeats

New Member
Wow - a lot of good combinations listed here!

I'm currently working out what cymbal is my next purchase, to complement my current setup. I'm tossing up between 18" or 19" across either the signature or 602 series.

Currently I have the following (covers most gig sizes):

15" Formula 602 HH
14" PSTX flanger crash
16" Masters Dark Crash
17" Masters Dark Crash
20" Masters Dark Crash/Ride
22" 2002 Ride.

Granted - I still have my PST 5 pack with 14HH/16C/18C/20R, which I generally use for rehearsals. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers Justin
 

PaisteGuy

Active Member
Wow - a lot of good combinations listed here!

I'm currently working out what cymbal is my next purchase, to complement my current setup. I'm tossing up between 18" or 19" across either the signature or 602 series.

Currently I have the following (covers most gig sizes):

15" Formula 602 HH
14" PSTX flanger crash
16" Masters Dark Crash
17" Masters Dark Crash
20" Masters Dark Crash/Ride
22" 2002 Ride.

Granted - I still have my PST 5 pack with 14HH/16C/18C/20R, which I generally use for rehearsals. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers Justin
I would suggest a 19” 602.
 

Elvis

Silver Member
Wow - a lot of good combinations listed here!

I'm currently working out what cymbal is my next purchase, to complement my current setup. I'm tossing up between 18" or 19" across either the signature or 602 series.

Currently I have the following (covers most gig sizes):

15" Formula 602 HH
14" PSTX flanger crash
16" Masters Dark Crash
17" Masters Dark Crash
20" Masters Dark Crash/Ride
22" 2002 Ride.

Granted - I still have my PST 5 pack with 14HH/16C/18C/20R, which I generally use for rehearsals. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers Justin
18" Signature Mellow Crash
 
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