Good god, those finishes are dreadful.My Starclassic Maple is one of my favorite kits, and I love Tama, but man can they make some horrid finishes. Stryper kit on one side and Helloween on the other, sandwiching what I can only describe as a bruise on a corpse purple burst.
Could DW, if they are not careful, turn into the next Gibson? Too many irons in one fire? Just something to think about. Good and (especially) Lombardi are close to "hanging it up" age. A whole bunch of assets to eventually to unload for big $$$ to an entity that may not care about musicians. Just something to think about.
Could DW, if they are not careful, turn into the next Gibson? Too many irons in one fire?
Good god, those finishes are dreadful.
That girl is pretty funny but those videos weren't very informative.New Mapex Saturn Evolution Series
14 new Mapex Black Panther snares
New Black Panther Design Labs Artist Series snares (whew that's a long name lol)
Maybe it’s just me, but I’m starting to feel like some drum offerings are outpacing a lot of people’s incomes. For example, a bop set of Canopus Yaiba is now running $1899 at some USA dealers, and that’s pricing on par with a Ludwig Classic Maple in bop setup. That seems a bit ridiculous?
The pricing vis-a-vis incomes seems much worse now than 10-15 years ago.
Not so sure I agree. I see your point, but I also know lots of folks who have been anchored at salaries between $50k-$60k a year for a long time, and yet the Yamaha Absolute Maple 4 pc kit that had a street price of $2k in 2004 is now over $3k. Of course, one significant difference is advertised selling price versus talking on phone with dealer—you can get better deals at some shops if you call or visit.It was no different back in the day when a kit was $600 with cymbals and a decent income was maybe $8-10k/yr. that $600 represented a large portion of a person's income, just as $3,000 would be to someone making $40-50k. When I was looking at gear as a young drummer, a Zildjian 22" was $70 and a Ludwig stand was $12, but that $82 might as well have been a thousand. It's all relative.
Bermuda
Not so sure I agree. I see your point, but I also know lots of folks who have been anchored at salaries between $50k-$60k a year for a long time, and yet the Yamaha Absolute Maple 4 pc kit that had a street price of $2k in 2004 is now over $3k
I used an inflation calculator. In 1967, Ludwig sold a 4 piece Super Classic set for $522. It included a few accessories as well.It was no different back in the day when a kit was $600 with cymbals and a decent income was maybe $8-10k/yr. that $600 represented a large portion of a person's income, just as $3,000 would be to someone making $40-50k. When I was looking at gear as a young drummer, a Zildjian 22" was $70 and a Ludwig stand was $12, but that $82 might as well have been a thousand. It's all relative.
Bermuda
I used an inflation calculator. In 1967, Ludwig sold a 4 piece Super Classic set for $522. It included a few accessories as well.
How much is $522 in today's dollars?
$3,995.60
That's more than I paid for my 2018 Classic Maple 7 piece shells.
Agreed.Manufacturing processes have become much more efficient over the years. CNC machines can drill a shell in a fraction of the time it used to take. Those efficiencies allow companies to offer drums today cheaper than the good old days, factoring in inflation.
And generally with higher quality, I might add.Agreed.