Why does everyone make fun of Lars?

cbphoto said:
When I watched Some Kind of Monster I was completely turned off by everyone’s bitchy, complain-y, my first-world-problem-is-worse-than-yours personalities. ( And poor Bobby Rock (producer), having to deal with such juveniles for the sake of money.) They were far worse than any gaggle of “Real Housewives”.

That, combined with his attack on Napster after years of selling & giving away cassette tapes of the band’s recordings, told me he’s not a man of integrity or virtue. I couldn’t care less about his drumming or the band.
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this is how I felt about them from Black album on...I can't think of a better definition of sell out than them...

and I am in the minority that does not define success by amount of money you have...so I actually think the whole band is failure, because of the sell out thing
 
MrInsanePolack said:
I blame the bus accident. Cliff would not have let this happen.
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truth....100%...I don't think the Black album would have happened with Cliff...or, Cliff would have left and formed a different band, keeping it real

and none of that is on Newstead either...I think part of why he left is b/c he could not stand to be "part of the comedy on stage", to quote a great movie
 
For me it was back in high school when all of the dudes were going on about this amazing drummer, and when I listened I simply wasn't impressed (my older brother was always playing Rush, Deep Purple, the Police, and Led Zeppelin) and didn't understand the hype. The more this went on the more I disliked him as his playing did nothing for me. He comes across as a real dink too.

I aslo found his playing never really drove the songs. It was usually Kirk or James doing the driving and Lars was along for the ride making sure there was gas in the car.
 
Hewitt2 said:
But the guy is almost 60 years old
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So is Charlie Benante (57) and Dave Lombardo (55) and both of them have improved their craft and can still thrash with the best of them, especially Charlie. Charlie and Anthrax, still doing it.
 
someguy01 said:
So is Charlie Benante (57) and Dave Lombardo (55) and both of them have improved their craft and can still thrash with the best of them, especially Charlie. Charlie and Anthrax, still doing it.
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Charlie has issues though. I saw the Slayer farewell tour and Charlie was unable to play. Gene Hoglan sat in with Anthrax.

However yes I agree age is just a number. Plenty of old fogies tearing it up still.
 
doggyd69b said:
Trujillo got the gig
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And just like Jason, they have completely wasted his talent and shoved him to the back. Honestly, they could just hire a high school kid since they mix out most of the bassline anyway. Listen to the Infectious Grooves, see what Rob can actually do. By the way, those guys also had a chance to have Les Claypool in the band, his story of that audition is pretty funny.

 
I think it's not only what he says but how he says it. Pompous comes to mind. At an awards show, he told Howard Stern to stop what he was doing live in front of millions like he was in charge of everything. I think he's a good drummer though, even if he doesn't practice. He can probably beat me in tennis as well. :p
 
someguy01 said:
And just like Jason, they have completely wasted his talent and shoved him to the back. Honestly, they could just hire a high school kid since they mix out most of the bassline anyway. Listen to the Infectious Grooves, see what Rob can actually do. By the way, those guys also had a chance to have Les Claypool in the band, his story of that audition is pretty funny.

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Completely agree with that statement. But Trujillo knew that going in, he saw an easy meal ticket and he is still there. I'm sure that if he wanted to play at his best he probably would've kept infectious grooves or start another band. Jason just did the same he saved all his money (which the other guys made fun of him for) and bought himself a ranch. he lives the life he wants and could care less about being out of Metallica, he got what he wanted out of that deal.
 
C.M. Jones said:
I've never understood the ridicule directed toward his snare sound on the "St. Anger" project. Yes, it's unconventional and harsh in places, but the complete meltdown so many drummers experienced upon the album's release was utterly ludicrous. Lars chose that snare sound for a reason. If you don't like it, don't mimic it. Just get over it and move along.
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If the snare sound was the only thing bad about St Anger I could understand the hate, but that album is trash, some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard. If you don't believe me put on "Invisible Kid" and really dig deep into that poetry.

I like that Lars has his own style, the crash on the 2 that he does is unique and I like that he uses the toms a lot.
 
I think normal people get seduced and start believing their own PR so appear petulant, egocentric, egomaniacal, narcissistic duck heads. It’s not a good look and generally turns people off. I’m sure there is likely some psychological term for it- no one is immune really.
 
Nictarine said:
If the snare sound was the only thing bad about St Anger I could understand the hate, but that album is trash, some of the worst lyrics I've ever heard. If you don't believe me put on "Invisible Kid" and really dig deep into that poetry.
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I can't address the album's quality (or absence of quality), as I haven't heard it in its entirety. As I've explained, neither Metallica nor metal in general is my listening material of choice. I just find it strange that the phrase "St Anger snare sound" has become synonymous with "worst snare sound in recording history." Why the drumming world grew obsessed with the phenomenon is a depressing mystery. It's one snare sound on one album. A vile transgression punishable by eternal damnation it is not.
 
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Metallica as a musical entity, for me, ended with Cliff.
After that, they became a tool for moving product that usually diminished any previous qualities that may have drawn me to them.
To this end, Lars is a perfect frontman and BL, stirring up a publicity and marketing frenzy. Much like Gene Simmons, another business entity wolf wearing "artistic" sheep's clothes. For some, the music business is more business than music. ;)

The same thing happened with AC/DC after Bon, imo. Another once-unique musical group that now just repeats itself repeating itself.
 
it's become a sort of pop culture type joke now amongst musicians ... corny as hell to me personally

not unlike the whole Travis Barker thing ...

Lars is not Vinnie ... nor did he ever have to be or claim to be.

What he played on those first 3 records is enough to solidify him as one of the most influential rock/metal drummers ever.

What he plays on those 3 records is perfect and no one else could have done it that way.
 
He used to come and stay with Brian Tatler out of Diamond Head in Stourbridge in his youth to be part of the scene here before Metallica made it. They still support Metallica and Megadeth, their bassist randomly deps with me on wedding gigs when they're not on tour. They never quite made it but Megadeth and Metallica always keep in touch so fair play to him in that respect.

He's the ultimate garage band drummer, don't think he cares what people think about his drumming. He's got a gig any drummer would be stupid to turn down.

Alas Metallica is just a business now, they haven't made a decent album since....and Justice for All.
 
C.M. Jones said:
I can't address the album's quality (or absence of quality), as I haven't heard it in its entirety. As I've explained, neither Metallica nor metal in general is my listening material of choice. It just find it strange that the phrase "St Anger snare sound" has become synonymous with "worst snare sound in recording history." Why the drumming world grew obsessed with the phenomenon is a depressing mystery. It's one snare sound on one album. A vile transgression punishable by eternal damnation it is not.
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Lars has become a meme!

 
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