Thanks. Nobody wants to exist in a vacuum.Welcome to the forum.
i can only speak to my own experience in the United States, and to the many decades of rock n roll and it’s various iterations in the United States. The one exception I can think of is the early stages of punk in the US. There were plenty of women and queer people in bands and they weren’t relegated to novelty, token status. But that sure died out quick.Ooh I just discovered this thread
Hi themandaland, it's a pity to see you so desillusioned and cynical.
When I joined the local samba percussion band I discovered it's a 90% female thing in France. Same for the other percussion bands we met with and played with. All these women loved to play and perform and their playing varied from pretty poor to awfully good just like the few guys that were there.
Now in Brazil it's the other way around, it's 90% men. Why is that? Some may argue samba schools in Brazil are terrribly competitive, the ones who get to play at the Rio carnaval are the very best and you can only get to that level with gallons of testosterone running through your body, making you forget your wife and family and mowing the lawn and what all else would distract you from playing the enredo.
I don't know.
I think as soon as the female/male ratio in any activity goes beyond 70/30 or drops below 30/70, the sheep in us goes "OK apparently it's an opposite sex activity" and we somehow lose interest. Only the most passionate people don't.
Edit: the other observation I made was samba percussion bands in France consist of 90% extreme-left environmentalists (while I work with oil companies ). Now what does that have to do with samba? It's just as irrelevant as gender. It's people hanging out with similar people.
Gender might be irrelevant in samba, but it isn’t in this context.
I’m not disillusioned; I’m a realist. I’m just, like any artist worth their salt, an observer of society, reporting back my findings. I wish I could put every man who can’t see it in women’s proverbial shoes. I can’t.