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TJK

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I have always had problems having supras open up easily regarding the snares. I think the way they sound stock has a lot to be desired. I rally on in posts about the damn plastic straps but it is a big reason it sounds so dead .
 
Winston_Wolf

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I guess I'm really the odd man out, but I run my 12 strand wires on plastic straps. I like a fairly dry snap and a lot of shell tone in most of my snares, but I've never really had any sensitivity issues with plastic straps.
 
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TJK

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Winston_Wolf said:
I guess I'm really the odd man out, but I run my 12 strand wires on plastic straps. I like a fairly dry snap and a lot of shell tone in most of my snares, but I've never really had any sensitivity issues with plastic straps.
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Well if you run them loose they do ok but they really choke up when tight. There’s a very small window of tension where the drum will go from choked to open with the plastic straps. The strings and fabric straps for that matter will give you a bigger window of openness if you will.
 
Winston_Wolf

Winston_Wolf

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I've used all three methods, and I'm still a big believer in grosgrain ribbon but on a couple drums I thought those sounded a bit choked so I pulled out some plastic straps and liked those enough to switch them out on a couple of my snares. I've never gotten along with string and even back when I used the older P-83 and P-85 designed for strings I worked a lot harder than I thought I needed to to get the snare wires evenly tensioned.

I wonder if our different impressions on plastic straps have to do with snare head tension. I tune my snare-side heads up quite high, and I feel like that leads to a much quicker snare response in general.
 
Neilage

Neilage

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My new Supra has a stamp inside the shell (pics attached) and I was hoping some of you may have some insight.

The serial number confirms that this is a 1966 LM402.

The stamps looks like "891", but it may be "391".

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Any feedback would be greatly appreciated
 
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drumhedd

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Neilage said:
My new Supra has a stamp inside the shell (pics attached) and I was hoping some of you may have some insight.

The serial number confirms that this is a 1966 LM402.

The stamps looks like "891", but it may be "391".

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Any feedback would be greatly appreciated
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This is not a '66 - you cannot date the large keystone badge drums using the vintage serial number guide. The badge on this drum was first used in 1984, but those read "Chicago" - so this is a post-1984 drum.
 
Neilage

Neilage

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drumhedd said:
This is not a '66 - you cannot date the large keystone badge drums using the vintage serial number guide. The badge on this drum was first used in 1984, but those read "Chicago" - so this is a post-1984 drum.
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Thanks for the reply, drumhedd.

A few follow up questions...

1. So the information in these links is incorrect?

Serial Guide

www.ludwig-drums.com www.ludwig-drums.com

Vintage Snare Drums online Ludwig, Slingerland, Leedy, Camco, Gretsch, Sonor

Vintage Drum History is all about history for Ludwig Drum HIstory, Slingerland Drum History, Rogers Drum History and the History of Vintage Drums, Vintage Snare Drums amd Vintage Drum Sets.
www.vintagedrumguide.com

2. Is there a reliable source to determine the production year of my Supra?

3. What does the stamp inside the shell indicate?
 
Winston_Wolf

Winston_Wolf

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Neilage said:
1. So the information in these links is incorrect?

Serial Guide

www.ludwig-drums.com www.ludwig-drums.com

Vintage Snare Drums online Ludwig, Slingerland, Leedy, Camco, Gretsch, Sonor

Vintage Drum History is all about history for Ludwig Drum HIstory, Slingerland Drum History, Rogers Drum History and the History of Vintage Drums, Vintage Snare Drums amd Vintage Drum Sets.
www.vintagedrumguide.com
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The information is correct, it is just not for the style of badge/era of drum you have.

2. Is there a reliable source to determine the production year of my Supra?

3. What does the stamp inside the shell indicate?
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Based on the stamp it was either made in March of 1991 or August of 1991, depending on if that is a "3" or an "8.".
 
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