What type of heads do you like with die cast hoops?

single-ply

Senior Member
I know the hoops control the sound more so than 2.3mm hoops do. Do you prefer a different type of head to compensate?
 

Rattlin' Bones

Gold Member
Good question. I have an Oriollo aluminum Phantom snare on order (I ordered without hoops or heads) and have ben debating on what hoops to buy die cast or triple flanged, and then what heads. I'll be looking at these responses for ideas.

I know the hoops control the sound more so than 2.3mm hoops do. Do you prefer a different type of head to compensate?
 

pgm554

Platinum Member
Evans Genera coated batter or Remo Ambassador m.5.

They complement the DC rims with just enough overtones for a musical sound.

This does vary with shell material though.
 

mandrew

Gold Member
Good question! Consider that concert snares use Die Cast almost exclusively. Those snares usually have Diplomat weight heads, coated or Renn. type. The reason is to control overtones and yet have great sensitivity and response. I would still consider Diplomat or Ambassador weight single ply heads for tone and overtone control. If you want to graduate to Emp type heads, keep the 2.3mm.
 

Push pull stroke

Platinum Member
Good question. I have an Oriollo aluminum Phantom snare on order (I ordered without hoops or heads) and have ben debating on what hoops to buy die cast or triple flanged, and then what heads. I'll be looking at these responses for ideas.
I just put a Gibraltar wood hoop on the top side of my Black Beauty, and I really like it. It’s definitely more open and ringy than the die-cast I replaced it with, but the real payoff is the rimshot and rim click sounds. They’re just awesome. I’m seriously considering going to wood hoops for the batter side on all my snares.
 

Bo Eder

Platinum Member
I know the hoops control the sound more so than 2.3mm hoops do. Do you prefer a different type of head to compensate?
I’m currently having good luck with clear or costed Ambassadors over clear Ambassadors. I want livelier heads because die casts tend to control and focus a thin shell.
 

Midnite Zephyr

Platinum Member
I switched my stock Ludwig birch snare drum to old Grestch die cast hoops. I think the hoops are perfect for any 11 mil single-ply head. It took away just enough of the unwanted overtone that annoys me. I'm using an Attack Medium coated batter currently, but an Ambassador or G1 would work just as well. I'm still using a stock 3 mil reso, but I also switched out the wires to Puresound 20's.
 

markdrum

Silver Member
You might want to consider the S-Hoops as well. They're a good compromise between die cast and the 2,3 hoops. I've also had good luck with the "302" hoops that Gretsch is shipping drums with. They're 3 mm with a "stick chopper" top edge. They do a great job on my brass Gretsch COB.
 
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