Virgil Donati

Bozozoid

Well-known member
I am the KING of the world. I've summoned them all to express their talents in my presence. DVD..youtube etc. Virgil is a technical wizard. Dennis..Steve..Vinnie..Dave..Steve..not the first one. Etc etc..Igoe to. Buddy just lights a fire under my a-- like no other drummer befor or after. I can come home after a night out dog tired and if buddy was on some show rerun soloing I'm glued right there.
 

Old PIT Guy

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You can't help but respect the work that's gone into his craft, and how he's kept himself in great shape into his 60s.

It never ceases to amaze me how often he's overlooked in prog drummer lists. The Planet X library is one continuous Prog schooling. I know some guys look at the compositions as showpieces for musical oddity and technique for technique's sake, and even if that's somewhat true someone had do it. And that's likely why no one else has. Because they can't. Not like he did.
 

Al Strange

Well-known member
You can't help but respect the work that's gone into his craft, and how he's kept himself in great shape into his 60s.

It never ceases to amaze me how often he's overlooked in prog drummer lists. The Planet X library is one continuous Prog schooling. I know some guys look at the compositions as showpieces for musical oddity and technique for technique's sake, and even if that's somewhat true someone had do it. And that's likely why no one else has. Because they can't. Not like he did.
You might have gathered I’m a huge admirer of Virgil, his dedication to the craft is unsurpassed; I would urge all young drummers to seek him out and listen to his advice... the guy can, and has, done it all, and yet he still has the hunger to keep pushing the boundaries of what’s possible! :unsure::)(y)
 

Mighty_Joker

Silver Member
I was lucky enough to work with Virgil at a clinic he did in Nottingham near me, here in the UK. I teched for him that day, had a few hours of lessons with him, showed him around the city, went out for a curry and a pint with him.

He was nothing but humble, generous with his time and advice, and a monster behind the kit. It was easy to forget that he is one of the greatest drummers of our time. Aside from being a beast of a man (he was still wearing a torn muscle t-shirt), he is softly spoken, unassuming, and friendly. I gave him one of my own CDs and he was genuinely happy to receive it.

I am not a particular fan of all of the music he has been involved with, but I am a huge fan of the man and his drumming. This was most certainly a case of being glad I met an idol.
 

Al Strange

Well-known member
I was lucky enough to work with Virgil at a clinic he did in Nottingham near me, here in the UK. I teched for him that day, had a few hours of lessons with him, showed him around the city, went out for a curry and a pint with him.

He was nothing but humble, generous with his time and advice, and a monster behind the kit. It was easy to forget that he is one of the greatest drummers of our time. Aside from being a beast of a man (he was still wearing a torn muscle t-shirt), he is softly spoken, unassuming, and friendly. I gave him one of my own CDs and he was genuinely happy to receive it.

I am not a particular fan of all of the music he has been involved with, but I am a huge fan of the man and his drumming. This was most certainly a case of being glad I met an idol.
That’s where my picture was taken, Nottingham 2016!! (y) :D
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Mighty_Joker

Silver Member

iCe

Senior Member
You can't help but respect the work that's gone into his craft, and how he's kept himself in great shape into his 60s.

It never ceases to amaze me how often he's overlooked in prog drummer lists. The Planet X library is one continuous Prog schooling. I know some guys look at the compositions as showpieces for musical oddity and technique for technique's sake, and even if that's somewhat true someone had do it. And that's likely why no one else has. Because they can't. Not like he did.

I should really listen the Planet X cd's again. Has been years since i listened to them, but those contain some stellar songs!
 

Supernoodle

Senior Member
Is Virgil the inventor of the '4-way single stroke roll'? I mean RKLKRKLKRK... singles between left hand, left foot, right hand right foot

The first time I heard those fast and clean was on his Modern Drummer 1997 performance. It's quite a distinct sound, different from the more common RLKKRLKK

More recently it's been used by Vinnie at the end of a cray fill, see below, but was Donati the first to do them?
 

Al Strange

Well-known member
Is Virgil the inventor of the '4-way single stroke roll'? I mean RKLKRKLKRK... singles between left hand, left foot, right hand right foot

The first time I heard those fast and clean was on his Modern Drummer 1997 performance. It's quite a distinct sound, different from the more common RLKKRLKK

More recently it's been used by Vinnie at the end of a cray fill, see below, but was Donati the first to do them?
I don’t know who did it first but if my memory serves me correctly Gregg Bissonette demonstrated this at a clinic I attended around 20 years ago and said it was something Vinnie showed him at the Buddy Rich memorial? :unsure: :)
 

Old PIT Guy

Well-known member
Are you guys talking about alternating quads: LH-RF-RH-LF? That's been around quite awhile. I recall guys working with it in the 80s.

It's not too difficult to work it up to speed, but it's a different story to drop it in at tempo within a groove or other pattern. I think that's why you more commonly see it played with one BD and alternating between one or two hands. For me it's always been a balance issue since I can play the pattern (2 BDs) reasonably well by itself. But when you go to drop it there's a high level of precision involved that requires a really solid sense of centering yourself between the 4 limbs.
 

Bozozoid

Well-known member
I'm a Virgil fan...he has a great mind for handeling complicated music and I'm thoroughly impressed but can I say one thing about how I feel concerning Buddy Rich?. Do I need to go through the alphabet?..Vinnie..Steve...Dave..etc etc. To this day no one makes me feel the way I do when watching/listening to Buddy. Players have better technique today...(some) but no one lights a fire under my -.-.-. like buddy does. He's just magical..his looseness....his feel...everything about him is untouched to this day. Lots of techno wizards out there that can blow your mind but they don't do it like Buddy did for my money. I'm just as impressed with Buddy TODAY!..i really am.
 
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