Well, this thread has certainly taken a turn from the absurd to the completely ridiculous. If you're playing singles, doubles, flams, and any combination of those you ARE playing rudiments. Don't be a caveman. Any hack can learn how to bash away on the drums. We wonder why drummers don't get the respect from other musicians? Want to call me a technique snob? Thank you. You're darn right I am. Just like any other musician you need to learn how to play the instrument, not simply crank a sound out of it. A good drummer learns how to perform on the instrument with a wide variety of technique.