Upcoming Netflix Documentary on Drummers

Steve30907

Active Member
This thread has reassured me that everyone on the interwebs is still a critic.
IMO this critical examination of everything has ruined so many movies for me lately. The whiny nerds on Instatwitface have worked very hard to ruin Star Wars with all their incessant complaining. Same with the comic book nerds and the Marvel movies. George Lucas was a crap director but really good with special effects and it seems the older nerds failed to realize that back in 1977.
I expect entertainment, and "Count Me In" provided just that. If I take any issue with it that would be that it isn't a documentary just an entertaining movie.
You do realize this is a topic on a discussion forum right?
 

Hewitt2

Senior Member
Agreed, without Dune, Star Wars would have been different, or maybe not even a concept Lucas came up with

Dune is an amazing book, can never recommend it enough.

An arguably even better place to trace inspiration is Joseph Campbell’s The Hero With a Thousand Faces.

Campbell outlines the hero’s journey which is foundational to narrative and how we define what it is to be a hero. Lucas has often spoken of the importance of this work on his films.
 

someguy01

Platinum Member
Anyone who reads knows that Lucas lifted his concepts from the novel Dune.
100%
Like I said earlier, George was a genius at special effects and that was what was so ground breaking in 1977.
Disney wanted ILM and Skywalker Sound, Star Wars was a bonus.
As for Dune, I'm intrigued by the new movie version. I hope it's as good as they're making it out to be.
However, Kyle MacLachlan will always be Paul Atreides and Mr. Mayor.
You do realize this is a topic on a discussion forum right?
Nope. Had zero clue this was a discussion forum.
 

someguy01

Platinum Member
For those jonesing for all things Rush:
9 Sep 2021
 

Capital D

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I'm not sure that Dune was the only influence on Lucas. I think there was a Japanese movie called the 7 Samurai that also had a huge influence.

Al Strange, Copeland's On Drums was super cool! I haven't seen or been able to find "The Art of Drumming", but I keep hearing good things about it.
 

Otto

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I'm not so sure I am put off by the inclusion or exclusion of any specific drummer.

I think I am put off because the presentation felt more 'advertisy' than documentary...or even 'entertainy'.

Afterward i was really curious about the flow of money in relation to the inclusion of some of the highlighted snippets given how far astray of the general tone they fell...felt like interjected commercials popping up at times.

"Art as expression not market campaigns" seems to have taken a beating here...and my imagination was not captured. (pardon the attempt to use the work of one of the more vocally missed drummers to illustrate the point)
 
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SomeBadDrummer

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Anyone who reads knows that Lucas lifted his concepts from the novel Dune.

There’s a video on the internet that is an excellent edit/compilation of episodes 1–3. It eliminated all the goofy/irrelevant stuff into about 20 minutes and sets up episode 4 very well.
Dune is a fabulous novel, loved it and now I must reread it.

I saw the original Star Wars in the theatre when I was 10, blew me away. There was nothing else even close to the special effects at that time. Lucas was a genius in that he gathered together everyone it took to pull off some amazing SE for that era using models and strings to suspend them. Compared to previous scifi films it was monumental and raised the bar considerably for the industry.
For those jonesing for all things Rush:
9 Sep 2021
Hey thanks for posting this! I plan on watching over the weekend. EDIT: apparently not available online yet :cry:

I was never an huge Rush fan during my formative years, but can definitely appreciate Neil's incredible talent and contribution to music across the decades. What would life be without so many of the Rush classics? Hard to say, except that it would have been less.
Tom Sawyer, YYZ, Red Barchetta, etc. have been ingrained into my mind for better or worse, I believe for better.
 
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SomeBadDrummer

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I watched it last night. It was okay. I personally preferred Stewart Copeland’s “On Drums” and Steve White’s “The Art of Drumming” documentaries… :unsure: :)(y)
Do you have a link to Stewart Copeland's "On Drums"? I'd love to watch that!
 

someguy01

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Sakae2xBopster

Active Member
I watched it, start to finish. I liked some parts. Overall, I'd say meh, mostly because of the way it was made.
*SPOILER ALERT*
They interviewed as many drummers as they could find (or afford) within their time constraints. They then grouped clips into half-a-dozen or so categories, based on the commonalities of what was said in the interviews. To give it a little bit of a narrative structure, and to keep viewers hanging on for a promised surprise at the end, they periodically interspersed segments of a drummer putting together a perfect kit (perfect for that upcoming performance, at least).
Given that the filmmakers were at the mercy of what people said, I think they did okay. It's just not my favorite style of telling a story.
My wife watched it, too, and gave the producers props for including more female drummers than usual. And given that she has been hearing about Neil Peart from her brothers pretty much nonstop for half a century, she didn't mind that omission.
 

Rattlin' Bones

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I watched it. I was counting down the minutes until the ending because I at least wanted to see the whole thing through but I definitely wasn't entertained.
It was a mix of pseudo-cerebral nonsense combined with a healthy dose of Neanderthal without any coherent point except to repeat the pots and pans cliche over and over...

Exactly. And it didn't have any thesis or any sorta goal or objective. Fiction screenplays are in 3 acts and you put the protagonist in some kind of dilemma or conflict in act 1 that they spend act 2 trying to solve. Nonfiction or documentaries need to have a thesis something the writer and director are trying to show. This thing was all over the place.
 
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paradiddle pete

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I'm not sure that Dune was the only influence on Lucas. I think there was a Japanese movie called the 7 Samurai that also had a huge influence.images.jpegweirdos fixed.jpg

Al Strange, Copeland's On Drums was super cool! I haven't seen or been able to find "The Art of Drumming", but I keep hearing good things about it.
I'd say it is a direct rip off of Starman movies , one of them even has a Death Star.. Evil Brain from outer space I think.
 

SomeBadDrummer

Platinum Member
I watched it, start to finish. I liked some parts. Overall, I'd say meh, mostly because of the way it was made.

They interviewed as many drummers as they could find (or afford) within their time constraints.
If Netflix has trouble finding or affording drummers then God bless the rest of us mere mortals. Meh is about the most positive thing I could say
They then grouped clips into half-a-dozen or so categories, based on the commonalities of what was said in the interviews.
Sounds like at least they attempted to pull it together into a cohesive denouement.
 

jansara

Junior Member
Hammer as loud as you can, bash the shit out of the drums and people will say, "Wow! What a great drummer."
Works every time.
 

Stroman

Platinum Member
I only made it through ten or fifteen minutes. It just didn't interest me, right out of the gate, and I found that amazing, honestly.
 
Just finished watching . I didn’t hate it but as some others said , I was kinda looking forward to the end so that at least I could say I watched it all . I liked a few parts. It’s one of those things where if you’ve got nothing else to do you watch because…. well…….you’re a drummer 🤷🏻‍♂️. If I had set aside time to watch it I think I’d have felt cheated. Underwhelmed was my first feeling.
 
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