Upcoming Netflix Documentary on Drummers

Juniper

Gold Member
It was fine, it didn’t really add much and the same drummers covered & interviewed. felt a bit stale and not a ‘players’ documentary so much.

Probably more a documentary for non drummers or people just starting the drums (or parents of), and that’s completely cool as I’m sure a lot of people will enjoy it.

At the end of the day I’d rather be watching this than anything else on Netflix, so it’s all good.

Grateful for it all the same.
 
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Thin Shell

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It was clearly meant for the average, non musician audience. It always amazes me how someone makes a film celebrating drumming, which should encourage at least part of the audience to take it up, yet drummers cut it to shreds for this or that reason. But I will add that most of the drummers cutting it up are amateurs so that has to be factored in.

The bottom line is that it was meant to celebrate drumming and I think it did a good job of it.
 

Hewitt2

Senior Member
Look, I’m a simple man and my barometer as to why I enjoyed it was pretty straight-forward:

Did it make me feel like the little kid again who felt the profound wonder of drums as a magical rhythmic force? Yup

Did I jump on my drums as soon as I was done watching it? Definitely

The mega-jam at the end was a nice touch.

Kudos to the producers for giving equal air time to the awesome women players out there and helping to inspire the next generation of talented little girls.
 

cbphoto

Gold Member
Kudos to the producers for giving equal air time to the awesome women players out there and helping to inspire the next generation of talented little girls.
Such as Nandy Bushell (I gotta double-post this cuz it's really lovely):

 
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mpthomson

Senior Member
Maybe it was a European producer or something? I can honestly say Neil Peart was never once mentioned in any conversation I had with other musicians or fellow drummers. It wasn't until the internet came into my life (around 2007 or so) that I found out he was such a big thing. All the other usual suspects mentioned here popped up regularly, but Rush and Peart were complete unknowns to me. And I was knee-deep in music from 80 onwards and started gigging at around 1988. Was Rush even a thing in Europe?
The producers and authors are British, and Rush really isn't that much of a thing in the UK, never has been. Known about, yes, but a thing in the same way that they appear to be in the US, definitely not.
 

Neal Pert

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I really don't know how you talk about rock drumming for an hour and a half and Steven Perkins gets like eight minutes while genuinely significant drummers who've changed the way the drums were played got no air time.

There's no:
Clyde and Jabo
Neil Peart
Bill Bruford
Phil Collins-- this is inexcusable and I don't care how uncool people think he is now.
Carter Beauford
Travis Barker
?uestlove
Matt Chamberlain
Alex Van Halen
Al Jackson Jr.

And, I mean, I like punk drumming and I like Samantha Maloney and I like Clem Burke, but I dunno. And in the last segment the only drummer with anything even modestly interesting to say musically was Cindy Blackman.

Call me cranky. I just expected something more.
 

someguy01

Well-known member
Were there scheduling conflicts resulting in lack of availability? Were there managers that declined? Does Rush perhaps have a tribute coming for Neal and thusly said no?
There are a lot of variables of which we are totally unaware which may have resulted in some favourites not being in the movie. It's very unfair to assume they were simply left out on purpose by the producers/director.
 

Neal Pert

Well-known member
Were there scheduling conflicts resulting in lack of availability? Were there managers that declined? Does Rush perhaps have a tribute coming for Neal and thusly said no?
There are a lot of variables of which we are totally unaware which may have resulted in some favourites not being in the movie. It's very unfair to assume they were simply left out on purpose by the producers/director.
Has anyone suggested that they were assuming that? I'm criticizing the product, not the process.
 

Capital D

Member
In addition to Neal Peart and (Neil Peart as well :D) , the name that I was most missing was Mitch Mitchell.

Keith Moon was an entertaining player, but not as great a player as Mitch Mitchell or Ginger Baker. But they couldn't include every drummer who has ever played in a 90 minute show.

Overall I liked it and it made drumming seem like what it is, a TON OF FUN!

Edited because I can't spell. Woo!
 
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someguy01

Well-known member
I'm criticizing the product, not the process.
The process would result in the product. There has been a great deal of criticism (not just you) over drummers not in the movie. I was addressing that criticism as I see it to be unfair.
Criticizing the end product for not having whom you (the "you" is ubiquitous) wanted to see would be a criticism of the process that created the unappealing, to some, product.
When I go to a baseball game and my favourite pitcher isn't pitching I don't criticize the team and the manager, I accept there are variables to which I am unaware and just enjoy the game.
I suppose some wanted a super in depth documentary about all of their favourite drummers and when it failed to meet the preconceived notion it is a failure. What I watched wasn't a documentary, it was an entertaining movie.
 

Hewitt2

Senior Member
I really don't know how you talk about rock drumming for an hour and a half and Steven Perkins gets like eight minutes while genuinely significant drummers who've changed the way the drums were played got no air time.

There's no:
Clyde and Jabo
Neil Peart
Bill Bruford
Phil Collins-- this is inexcusable and I don't care how uncool people think he is now.
Carter Beauford
Travis Barker
?uestlove
Matt Chamberlain
Alex Van Halen
Al Jackson Jr.

And, I mean, I like punk drumming and I like Samantha Maloney and I like Clem Burke, but I dunno. And in the last segment the only drummer with anything even modestly interesting to say musically was Cindy Blackman.

Call me cranky. I just expected something more.

Fair enough but this wasn’t designed to be an all-encompassing documentary on the history of all the amazing drummers. There are plenty of other documentaries that do just that.

Complaining about who was left out is a little short-sighted and missed the point.

I loved learning more about some musicians I was unfamiliar with, especially the female ones who have some unique challenges to deal with in striving to become pro drummers.
 

Neal Pert

Well-known member
Fair enough but this wasn’t designed to be an all-encompassing documentary on the history of all the amazing drummers. There are plenty of other documentaries that do just that.

Complaining about who was left out is a little short-sighted and missed the point.

I loved learning more about some musicians I was unfamiliar with, especially the female ones who have some unique challenges to deal with in striving to become pro drummers.

You liked it. I didn't and I gave my reasons. I'm happy you liked it.
 

yammyfan

Senior Member
Complaining about who was left out is a little short-sighted and missed the point.
I agree. My issue is that generally speaking, top 3-5 rock drummers lists usually involve some combination of Peart-Moon-Bonham-Baker in whatever order they're being ranked that day. You just don't see Bonham and Moon discussed very often without Peart in the mix, and vice-versa.

Anyway, no big deal really. It was enjoyable, just a bit unbalanced in my humble opinion.
 
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someguy01

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I think it boils down to: Rush and Neil fans wanted to see him in a movie about drummers, those of us that aren't fans weren't disappointed. IMO.
 

Neal Pert

Well-known member
I think it boils down to: Rush and Neil fans wanted to see him in a movie about drummers, those of us that aren't fans weren't disappointed. IMO.

Despite my screen name, I'm not actually a big Rush fan. I am overall disappointed in their selection of drummers and with a lot of the choices of the filmmakers. As with any opinion, YMMV.
 

SomeBadDrummer

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“ ‘Count me in’ comes out August 24. The preview features a frenetic Beatles performance and Abe Laboriel jr. raving about Ringo. Looked good! Should hopefully be 81 minutes of fun.

Really looking forward to this one - anyone else?
I made it through about 20 minutes of this but it was untenable/unendurable, something made by non-drummers for non-drummers. Could be interesting to some, but I found it to be very disappointing was expecting much more from a huge company like netflx...sigh, I suppose they were going for the widest audience instead of what might interest real drummers.
 
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someguy01

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I amend my earlier statement, it appears some folks were expecting Ken Burns: Jazz but for drummers.
Netflix caters to the average subscriber and tailors for the masses to generate the most revenue. A full on documentary about drummers would pull the audience of DW, not enough to justify the cost. That would require someone like Ken Burns who has the means and the passion to make it and not care about audience share.
Apparently, I'm in the minority liking Chad Smith, Stephen Perkins, Nicko McBrain, and Cindy Blackman (I am unfamiliar with the other 2 ladies).
I still firmly believe that some folks had preconceptions and that caused them disdain when the preconception wasn't met. Happens often. I have zero expectations of anything so I can go in with an open mind. With exception to American selfishness, that I fully expect and am surprised when it's not there.
 
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