I'm trying. I paied $4000 for them, they are broken glass. I want a gretsh USA custom so bad, I bought Catalina bop for gigs and it sounds better than my dubs, I think dw are just full of shit, they are AMAZING at marketing but man gretsch knows how to make a drum shell.Wow! And 6pc Collectors aren't cheap!!....Perhaps you should sell it now while they are still practically new and get something else!!!
One has to wonder why the older model entry kits of the 80s and early 90s are so appealing to many of today's drummersI hate my 6 piece dw collectors, only 6 months old too.
I'll second that, Drumkat. I play an old 80's Rockstar and I love it. We have a newer Starclassic in the studio too. I admit that the Starclassic set sounds better. I'd be an idiot if I didn't. Ha ha! But I look at that kit and it just looks puny with its tiny little 10" and 12" shallow toms. It has a little 14" "floor tom" hanging off the rack too. Then, my Rockstar is in the other corner looking all beefy with its square toms in (what used to be) standard sizes (12, 13 & 16) looking all menacing over there. It's no wonder guest drummers gravitate to my set. It sounds pretty good too.One has to wonder why the older model entry kits of the 80s and early 90s are so appealing to many of today's drummers
Rockstars, exports, APKs
Solid construction, those gorgeous long lugs, easy to tune, CHEAP, the sound....
I dunno, I just can't get into today's kits....something about them
I see soooo many Gretsch Catalina Clubs for sale second hand these days
Shallow shells make me wanna upchuck
This may sound ignorant, but what is this other forum that everyone keeps posting about?I experience the exact opposite over there. This isn't the first time I've heard about that mod though. I honestly just find myself intimidated by this forum sometimes. If I need serious advice, I come here. If I just want to talk shop, I go there because I find it much more laid back
I think that the "unpopular drumming opinion" can be taken exactly how you want to take it. Some guys will see it as a massive s$$t stirring fest, and some will say "oh cool, lets see what people think".
You said it quite respectfully, Chris, and no issues there. I don't insinuate that folks who stuff their kicks full of stuff don't know how to tune, I'm just saying I prefer the sound of a boomier, throatier kick. I do have a very light pillow that I will stuff into the kick if I need a bit more muffling, but most times it's the batter tuned low, the reso tuned medium-high, and a rolled-up t-shirt just touching the batter. That sounds great and full and can easily be miked and modified to whatever is needed.That actually made me think of another one. It seems like there's some snobbery online with people that play their bass drums wide open. Please don't take that wrong, alparrott. I swear I'm not singling you out or anything. You said it nicely. LOL... Some people take it farther and insinuate people don't know how to tune if they like pillows in their bass drum.
But anyway, in real life, I see muffling in every bass drum being used. I personally can't stand a wide open bass drum for any type of rock music, so I use slight muffling myself. I tried to like wide open, but just can't. It's an undefined low end rumbling mess in any rock situation I've been in.