Mr Farkle
Well-known Member
Taxi… yes to the nesting kit for sure!
Tree House nesting kit
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Mr Farkle
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Taxi or very small car, yeah. I had a kit cut down to fit in my car. So definitely.
DutchDrummersDreams
Platinum Member
Or get the father of nesting kits, the Marotta use and be done with it.
Still one if the best kits out there even 40 years sfter their release.
That being said, my whole 6 piece broadkaster with hardware, porter and davies throne/rack engine, carpet, and cymbals fits in a Justy.
So even smaller cars can fit big kits. And big van cabs for 6 or more persons too. So the need is now mostly gone if it is about transporting gear limitations.
Stage limitations is a different thing (although the bass drum depth is there more important than its width).
Still one if the best kits out there even 40 years sfter their release.
That being said, my whole 6 piece broadkaster with hardware, porter and davies throne/rack engine, carpet, and cymbals fits in a Justy.
So even smaller cars can fit big kits. And big van cabs for 6 or more persons too. So the need is now mostly gone if it is about transporting gear limitations.
Stage limitations is a different thing (although the bass drum depth is there more important than its width).
Good question.... cymbals should fit in one Hardcase but then there's still BD & HH pedal plus throne. And to make it worse I play with a back rest. The throne is probably the most awkward part and I've never found an easy solution for transport. Overall though a nesting kit will reduce the amount of gear I have to take, and store (I use an e-kit for practice), but it won't be particularly lite. I do however like the idea of getting rid of cymbal hardware to reduce stage footprint.
The Marotta kit is good but in terms of sizes not what I'm after (although I'm tempted to buy one as a second kit for those bop kit gig moments). What has drawn me to Tree House is the options available. They've worked out what size drums nest, basically so long as there's a 3 inch difference in diameter, and then worked out configurations based on shell depths.
So the kit I'm looking at is 20" BD, 16" and 13" FT, 10" rack tom and there's still room for a 14" snare. And has options to mount cymbals and one FT off the bass (I think you can also hang the snare off the BD but not sure if that would work for me, I'd have to try it first). Comes in at around 25kg.
PS their 18" BD bop kit option with 2 toms, no snare, comes in at 15kg and is tempting. So not a full nesting solution as I'd add another FT but maybe more practical and lighter.
DutchDrummersDreams
Platinum Member
True. Weight is important too (and the marotta does weight some).
I learned about tree house from a Junkie XL (Tom Holkenborg, now mostly known for blockbuster movie scoring) listing that had several drums and lookt very well made.
Curious what makes you go for those sizes (instead like 10 or 12/14/18 or 20 but shallower than regular)
PorkPieGuy
Platinum Member
I didn't even think about a nesting kit being 1-up/2-down. That's really cool.
MustangMick
Senior Member
For a second I thought that was a Renault Twizy...
Mick
This is where the peculiarities of a nesting kit and the 3" diameter rule affects your choice of tom sizes. If you start at a 10" then the next size up it will fit into is a 13", and then a 16", and then the smallest bass drum will be a 19" which effectively means a 20". The depth of the toms is then dictated by the snare size which has to fit in along side. If you have the snare separately then you can have more depth in the toms or a shallower BD. If you just go for two toms then you'll have more freedom with sizes but you can see how a nesting kit can make you choose odd sizes.
Yeah, I'd not considered a nesting kit until I saw a demo of a TreeHouse on youtube that was 1 up/2 down. There's not a picture of one on their website but you can see it on the configuration list.
DutchDrummersDreams
Platinum Member
It was based off of it, but it has a bit more space.
MustangMick
Senior Member
3" diameter difference will work, it just depends on your Small tom bracket size/FT leg brackets.
For mine it was 4" apart to allow room for a fleece blanket liner between each.
10"x8",14"x12",18"x14"
A 12" deep drum will nest inside a 14" deep outer drum. So a 2" difference there.
Also if you have an 18x14 Bass drum, use an 18x16 case as you can include the throne top.
Mick
So... I've just pulled the trigger on a Treehouse CS-18 nesting kit. 10" & 14"toms, 18 BD and 14" snare, with an octopus arm for the ride so it all hangs off the bass drum. In a yellow satin wax finish. It'll be a little while before I get my mitts on it but the main reason for doing this is that all the above will fit in a 18" Hardcase (I might even get my 18" crash/ride in the case!) so will be interesting to see how that impacts the logistics of doing a gig. Plus I've bought this without playing one but I've got no doubts it'll sound good. Oh, and ordered it with Evans Calftone heads.
Also, I bought a Sontronics STC-1 mic with all the modules (cardioid, hyper & omni), so going to experiment mic'ing the kit with that, specifically using the omni module with the mic in the 'knee' position for a one mic solution.
PS had an idea for the smallest drum solution for a gig by somehow turning a PDP New Yorker into a nesting kit! Could be possible but would probably cost more than the initial price of the kit.
Also, I bought a Sontronics STC-1 mic with all the modules (cardioid, hyper & omni), so going to experiment mic'ing the kit with that, specifically using the omni module with the mic in the 'knee' position for a one mic solution.
PS had an idea for the smallest drum solution for a gig by somehow turning a PDP New Yorker into a nesting kit! Could be possible but would probably cost more than the initial price of the kit.
