Ok, that's me & Neil Peart off the Chrismas list then, lol. I can rock & funk, but I sure as hell can't swing. (but I only have 10 cymbals including effect cymbals, & I use them all. Does that get me some dispensation?)Cats with ubber expensive kits (including the folks with 25 Vault or Signature cymbals) who couldn't swing if you hung them in the wind.