They are going to be big

I recall some point in the late 90's, a local music newspaper had my band page featured on page 2.

On page 1 was some then unknown band called System of Down.

I remember being angry. Why are they on page 1? They will never get signed, no one will ever buy their albums! We should be on page 1! We're going to be huge!

Well, of course, they got signed, they sold millions of albums, and we faded off, never to be signed, never to sell any albums.

Ops.
 
Take That were on the front cover of Smash Hits before they'd even released a song, so even as a cynical 12 year old, I knew someone in a boardroom had already decided they were going to be massive.
 
OAR - Was introduced to them in the late 90s or early 2000s through hearing a live recording......their studio work was "meh" and I don't think they were recorded very well. Their live show was markedly better and had a great vibe and great rich sound. With the addition of the sax etc. they had all the elements........again I wasn't wrong

we used to play ewith them all of the time when they were first starting out. I never would have thought they would get big. They seemed to just be happy playing the frat houses and dive bars along High St. here on OSU's campus
Dream Theater - I jumped on that bandwagon very early and then jumped off when everyone else jumped on.

got into them in 89. A friend that I played hockey with had gone to high school with them, and played me cassette tapes of some of their early stuff. I also never thought they would get famous...

Fates Warning......I was not correct on these guys. I thought they would be in the same category as Dream Theater

these guys, Queensryche and Watchtower are the prog metal pioneers. And honestly, I think Fates is the best prog metal band ever. It will always be a cryign shame that they were not more popular...but in the same way, they are sort of a prog-metal "best kept secret"

even Mike Portnoy has said that Awaken The Guardian was a monumental album for the members of Dream Theater when they were young guns

I feel like I am not really a predictor of bands who get popular, but am sort of the master of "just missing the boat"....

there was OAR....

Skeletonwitch is another band we used to play with in their formative years...they were playing their style of blackened thrash/death/hardcore back in 2003 and 2005 as kids from a small country town here in Ohio. Coolest dudes, but we never expected them to blowup like they did. I don't think they did either...

another group who we played with is In This Moment - they were still touring in a white beat up van. This was like in 2006ish. Sort of the first of the wave of female fronted heavy bands. They were cool people, but I honestly thought the music was sort of "meh"...still do. Can't believe they got moderately big...

my surf punk band was asked to go on the road with Fountains of Wayne right as they were releasing Stacey's Mom, and our bass player decided to bow out due to some family reasons...missed the boat

we also played a show back in 96 here in C-bus and there were 2 opening acts we were booked with. The first group was a local group we knew, but the second group was this very odd duo dressed as clowns and rapping. Their fans had brought in hundreds of bottles of Faygo soda and it became a warzone of pop. THANK GOD my drum set had not been up there yet. But setting up after that group was awful b/c the stage was soaked with soda. I had to use a garbage bag to set my bass drum on. I was floored to see Insane Clown Posse run up the charts years later
 
I'm the worst.

I thought AC/DC was a "one album wonder" back in 1982. Their album, "Back In Black" was cool, but I thought they would evaporate after this.

Boy, was I wrong!
 
I remember hearing a band ‘the presidents of the United States that got me thinking they could blow up, same with Spacehog.
One band that never got their due,
and are currently touring with 1 original member but in all fairness, there’s 3 from Dixie Chicken on, are Little Feat. Always been a musicians band , but never cashed in. Page, plant, the Stones, all proclaimed them their favorite American band in the 70’s. Loss of Lowell was a stop sign for many but they continued to put out great stuff until Richie Hayward then Paul Barrere passed. Any fans?
 
I'm the worst.

I thought AC/DC was a "one album wonder" back in 1982. Their album, "Back In Black" was cool, but I thought they would evaporate after this.

Boy, was I wrong!
That was NOT their debut. That was debut of Bonn Scott’s replacement on vocals. Albums with Bonn Scott put them on the map in the 70’s with tunes like Highway to Hell, the Jack, Dirty deeds etc. Back in Black was a great album, esowhen you consider vocalist is the hardest to replace without losing your sound. They found that same voice
 
I absolutely agree with you.

The La's were outstanding.

What a shame that they didn't last.

I think he was a very troubled guy.......I don't think any of them really did much when they broke up.

I also think The Stone Roses are another example.

They were screaming along on the back of Fool's Gold.......then pffffft......all over Red Rover.

I suspect The LA's are so revered now BECAUSE they only released one album. I was involved in promoting university events round that period and saw them blown off the stage in a live setting by other bands who were supporting on a few occasions, some of whom did nothing and others of whom (particularly the Milltown Brothers) who should have ended up being much bigger than they ended up being.

On record The La's were amazing, live much less so, it was always a bit shambolic.

John Power, the bass player, had a much more successful career as part of Cast after the La's and their drummer on the record, Chris Sharrock, ended up playing for World Party, Del Amitri, Lightning Seeds, Robbie Williams (for 8 yrs), Tom Jones, Euryhtmics, Mick Jagger, Oasis and both the Gallagher brother's bands after Oasis.
 
Fates Warning......I was not correct on these guys. I thought they would be in the same category as Dream Theater
They really should have been.

Not only were they around before DT, but their output got better with time, whereas DT went downhill over time IMHO.

But FW really shot themselves in the foot over and over again by not putting in the work. Fates opened for Dream Theater on the Awake tour but then didn't tour together again until the mid 2000s. All the guys in Dream Theater would have gladly had Fates open for them to built up the Fates audience, but guys in Fatess Warning just never had their sh*t together.

I've spoken with Ray Alder a few times here and there, and tours were always being canceled or postponed because this guy wasn't available, that guy wanted to wait. Jim wanted a break, and Mark wanted to do this or that with his side business. Ray moved to LA, while Jim never wanted to leave Connecticut. It's just they rarely could ever get on the same page to put in the work that the guy in Dream Theater did.

And as the year went on, there was more and more time in between tours, and less and less promotion of said tours.

Meanwhile, the guys in Dream Theater all bought houses near-ish each other (except James LaBrie), and were always willing to do what it took to get the next tour going (until Pornty didn't, but Mangini stepped right in, already living in the same basic area).

I much prefer Fates Warning's output in the late 90's and 2000s, but there is no question Dream Theater had a better and more organized worth ethic that allowed them to be a much bigger band.
 
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They really should have been.

Not only were they around before DT, but their output got better with time, whereas DT went downhill over time IMHO.

But FW really shot themselves in the foot over and over again by not putting in the work. Fates opened for Dream Theater on the Awake tour but then didn't tour again until the mid 2000s. All the guys in Dream Theater would have gladly had Fates open for them to built up the Fates audience, but guys in Fatess Warning just never had their sh*t together.

I've spoken with Ray Alder a few times here and there, and tours were always being canceled or postponed because this guy wasn't available, that guy wanted to wait. Jim wanted a break, and Mark wanted to do this or that with his side business. Ray moved to LA, while Jim never wanted to leave Connecticut. It's just they rarely could ever get on the same page to put in the work that the guy in Dream Theater did.

And as the year went on, there was more and more time in between tours, and less and less promotion of said tours.

Meanwhile, the guys in Dream Theater all bought houses near-ish each other (except James LaBrie), and were always willing to do what it took to get the next tour going (until Pornty didn't, but Mangini stepped right in, already living in the same basic area).

I much prefer Fates Warning's output in the late 90's and 2000s, but there is no question Dream Theater had a better and more organized worth ethic that allowed them to be a much bigger band.

Interesting info.......totally can see this happening.

Of course I am now listening to the Parallels album as background to work right now and I am still stunned by how great this album sounds 32 years later.
 
another group who we played with is In This Moment - they were still touring in a white beat up van. This was like in 2006ish. Sort of the first of the wave of female fronted heavy bands. They were cool people, but I honestly thought the music was sort of "meh"...still do. Can't believe they got moderately big...

Oh, I love them.

But I've only really gotten into them in the last few years. And I've since bought their entire back catalog. I would have loved to have seen them back in the day. Their live shows now are kinda meh. But I do love their albums.
 
They really should have been.

Not only were they around before DT, but their output got better with time, whereas DT went downhill over time IMHO.

But FW really shot themselves in the foot over and over again by not putting in the work. Fates opened for Dream Theater on the Awake tour but then didn't tour again until the mid 2000s. All the guys in Dream Theater would have gladly had Fates open for them to built up the Fates audience, but guys in Fatess Warning just never had their sh*t together.

I've spoken with Ray Alder a few times here and there, and tours were always being canceled or postponed because this guy wasn't available, that guy wanted to wait. Jim wanted a break, and Mark wanted to do this or that with his side business. Ray moved to LA, while Jim never wanted to leave Connecticut. It's just they rarely could ever get on the same page to put in the work that the guy in Dream Theater did.

And as the year went on, there was more and more time in between tours, and less and less promotion of said tours.

Meanwhile, the guys in Dream Theater all bought houses near-ish each other (except James LaBrie), and were always willing to do what it took to get the next tour going (until Pornty didn't, but Mangini stepped right in, already living in the same basic area).

I much prefer Fates Warning's output in the late 90's and 2000s, but there is no question Dream Theater had a better and more organized worth ethic that allowed them to be a much bigger band.

great information...they are #4 on my list of all time greatest influences in music.

it has also always been cool that they were always sort of my group of freinds' "little secret" too.

we got to hang out with them for 2 shows in Ohio on the Perfect Symmerty tour. A good freind of ours was Brian Slagels assistant and she got us tix and backstage etc. We all ate a diner in Cleveland before that show, and I got to help Zonder set up his drums.

met them in cincy at Bogarts and got to hang backstage before and afte the show. Ray, Joe DB and some of the crew talked nerd things for a while after the show. Joe was a D&D fan and we were tryign to explain it to Ray and the others...was a great 2 nights of my life!!
 
great information...they are #4 on my list of all time greatest influences in music.

it has also always been cool that they were always sort of my group of freinds' "little secret" too.

we got to hang out with them for 2 shows in Ohio on the Perfect Symmerty tour. A good freind of ours was Brian Slagels assistant and she got us tix and backstage etc. We all ate a diner in Cleveland before that show, and I got to help Zonder set up his drums.

met them in cincy at Bogarts and got to hang backstage before and afte the show. Ray, Joe DB and some of the crew talked nerd things for a while after the show. Joe was a D&D fan and we were tryign to explain it to Ray and the others...was a great 2 nights of my life!!
Nice.

Zonder let you help? My impressions of him are he's a bit of a hard ass. When I worked at West LA Music he would call up the store to buy stuff for this studio business (never anything drum related) and he would give the pro audio guys a hard time. I've been following him on FB for years, and I can't believe some of the dumb stuff he says once in a while.

More to the band, they put out a new album in 2020, but then no follow-up. No talk of a tour (granted COVID makes touring difficult). No talk of any promotion. Their social media has been relatively silent. Are they even still a band? Did they break up? retire? Or just on a prolonged hiatus?

Who knows? But that's been their problem for decades now, they just fall off the face of the map for years at a time.

Still, A Pleasant Shade of Gray is a true masterpiece.
 
Nice.

Zonder let you help? My impressions of him are he's a bit of a hard ass. When I worked at West LA Music he would call up the store to buy stuff for this studio business (never anything drum related) and he would give the pro audio guys a hard time. I've been following him on FB for years, and I can't believe some of the dumb stuff he says once in a while.

yeah...he was nice to me. We talked about playing traditional grip, his GMS drums and some other stuff. Maybe he was told to be nice to us? Maybe he was just young and not a "rock star" yet?

More to the band, they put out a new album in 2020, but then no follow-up. No talk of a tour (granted COVID makes touring difficult). No talk of any promotion. Their social media has been relatively silent. Are they even still a band? Did they break up? retire? Or just on a prolonged hiatus?

Who knows? But that's been their problem for decades now, they just fall off the face of the map for years at a time.

Still, A Pleasant Shade of Gray is a true masterpiece.

I do think right around the PSOG album, they were getting way too involved with their other side projects, and FW just sort of - sadly - became another one of those....
 
Early 80's I saw an unsigned band that a lot of folks thought would be big,I thought they were better than most post punk bands I had seen but that was about it,the band was REM so boy was I wrong.

Late 80's I went to see a friend's band open for anther band that had recently relocated to the Atlanta area,they were very polished and played very
well.The female lead singer had it all,was attractive,had this Bo Ho look ,charisma that drew your eye and a unique voice.I remember thinking that they should be a can`t miss.
A year and and a half later I heard a band on the top 40 station and Immediately recognized them,it was 10,000 maniacs.I was right about them.
 
One day, a couple of friends and I were packing into a car for a two-hour drive to somewhere. I had to sit alone in the back seat and the driver handed me a CD case of a brand new album by a band I never heard of. I sat in the back while the stereo blasted this album and I sat with the CD case and read all the lyrics and looked at the pictures. Every single song on that album was a kickass rocker and I was astounded that I liked every single song. That album was Appetite for Destruction and the band was Guns ‘n Roses. I knew at that very moment, that they would be huge and this debut album was one of the best I’d ever heard since Van Halen’s debut.
 
I saw Primus play a club back in 1989, before Frizzle Fry came out. The place was electric and the band was on fire. Another Bay Area band, Faith No More, had just broken big with The Real Thing and it seemed Primus was well on their way.
 
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