Nice drum, good score!I'm gonna resurect this thread almost a year to date since the last post.
I feel like I scored a pretty good CL deal today on an Arcolite LM 404 Black Galaxy
This is a few year old, but brand new, student pack. I got the snare, which doesn't have a mark on it. a stand (not the one in pics), practice pad, 2 song books, a pair of sticks, and a carrying bag, all for a hundred bucks. The original Ludwig coated head didn't have a stick mark on it. At least till I got it home. Now it has a few hundred.
I took a crappy sound percussion snare stand back to GC that was $60., so I really only put out another $40.00.
This thing sounds awesome. I see us spending a long and happy life together.
Eric, your question about new vs old is straight up based on personal preferences so you may get differening opinions, all would be "right answers" since it all depends on what sound a person might prefer, tight, or a more open sound.....I've been thinking about getting a Supraphonic or Acrolite as well.
I haven't seen too many offers over here, but I happened to see to 3 older Acrolites for sale:
I know listening would be best and I will, but would you prefer one of these over a new one?
Also, can anyone tell which heads come with a new one?
I've re-conditioned dozens of snares, some from the 1930's and if I thought that the older ones were weak in any way I wouldn't have sold off my newer Acro's, including a Black Galaxy, and kept the oldest.Hi LVDC, thanks for your elaborate post. I think what remains for me is to try each snare and choose the one I like best. Like you said: it's all about personal preference.
I was just wondering: usually items decade over time, don't snares suffer as well? Like the 60's snare: it goes back 5 decades, that's quite some time. Won't a new one last longer?
Another thing: I've read some people prefer the 6,5 deep acrolite over the 5 deep one because they can make the first sound like the latter but not the reverse. What's your opinion on this?
And which Remo heads would you recommend?
Thanks for posting; that one's mine! The NYC story is the most plausible I've heard; the badge dates it about '66, I believe. And yes, I do need to change those bottom tension rods.I just thought I would bump this thread to confirm something:
6.5 Keystone Acrolites exist! Even more interesting is they have 10 lugs instead of 8, so it is basically a 6.5 Supra. Apparently there was a line of a 100 or so made for the NYC school district. I wonder what a going price would be for one of those.
Most agree that the 60's acros are clear coated to prevent oxidation.A few guys on some forums where I'm a member,have removed the black galaxy finish on some blackros.They all feel its a propritary powder coating its a b*tch to remove.Once its off,they went to an auto body shop to have the drum bead blasted,then sanded with various grades of sand paper till they got the finish to where it could be clearcoated.Reading LVDC's assessment of the coatings on the Acro's (the most desirable in his opinion being the anodized and not the coated) I was wondering if it's worth it to somehow removing any coating off the newer Acro's. Like if you took a wire wheel to a Black Galaxy, I wonder if you would have to protect the shell with anything after the coating is removed. Since it's aluminum, I was thinking a coating of car wax inside and out should keep any oxidation in check. Any thoughts?
well congrats on your new Acro. I just got one too. Looks like yours but mine has the round corner BO badge. I think mine is a 1979. Good shape and sounds fantastic.I just got one from Ebay. USD 190 + freight to Malaysia.
Not exactly cheap, but I wanted a non powdercoated model in very good condition.
Based on the appearance of the drum(anodized, 2 hole P85, pointy BO badge, s/n 1368778), the drum should be from 1978 or 1979.
At that time Ludwig was, by far, the leading brand in Denmark and I am happy to finally own one of their drums.
The drum is in perfect condition, no rust, no pitting, throw-off works smoothly and the shell only have one or 2 minor scratches.
And it sounds good too right out of the box.