The gigging scene in your area

Pollyanna

Platinum Member
My band has been talking about venues and we heard that a club nearby pays just $100, subtracting PA hire AND bands are expected to have public liability insurance. Insane!

Was chatting with a guy at the drum shop and he was saying he recently toured Europe and in France was on a support bill in front of 20,000 people then came back to Sydney and played a club with a small crowd for peanuts.

I hope the music scene is better in your area than here. Not much joy for a bunch of oldies just wanting to make music outside of a rehearsal room :(

Busking isn't even a great option: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/showthread.php?p=615062
 

protestthedrummer

Junior Member
Mine sucks. We had an open mic night but it closed when some a hole free based in a bathroom and stole a wireless modem...But this was AFTER the open mic was done and the store was closing(it was a coffee house) and the owners cancelled it. But my band then played at this thing called "hootnight" wich was full of old people trying to cover bob dylan and sing like elvis.Our acoustic rock kinda blew them out of the water and drunk people didnt find us to appealling because everyone up here likes oldy tunes :( (NOrth Conway NH) but our drumline is hosting a compettion later involving drumlines all over New Hampshire :D but thats about it. There are some cool gigs about two hours any direction from here. Like the sad cafe and this club in portland maine that will soon be grazed by our band.
 

larryace

"Uncle Larry"
It's definitely not that bad here in Pennsylvania. There are numerous places that have live music, so I'd say it's pretty good here, considering the economic times and the state of live music today.
 

Neil

Senior Member
I guess I'm quite lucky where I live, I'm 20minutes drive from the centre of London i.e. I live in Greater London, and there are plenty of places to choose from we have a set rate £500 for 3hrs, although that always gets haggled down. £150 or free because it's our first gig there etc. No complaining obviously.
 

mcbike

Silver Member
there are tons of places to play in houston, but I get more gigs in austin 2.5 hours away. I guess I like travelling around the region becuase we aren't oversaturating an area. houston is so big you can drive for an hour in any direction and still be in houston.

The central scene is in downtown and inner city clubs but there is no real "district" for clubs it's kind of ridiculous with downtown, midtown, chinatown, washington ave, richmond ave., rice village, lower westheimer, etc. all those places have several clubs in them. The majority of the clubs in town don't pay well at all, but a few are really fair to the bands.

The best part about gigging in houston has been getting better becuase of festivals and civic spots. Just this past year I played the houston international festival, free press summerfest, houston press music awards, bi-annual westheimer block party, and this new place called discovery green is really cool. Its a huge park downtown with a big stage with really great sound and lights and they do free shows in the park on thursday nights.

In other years I've done some really cool gigs at the museum of fine arts too.
 

dairyairman

Platinum Member
in orlando, florida where i live the gigging scene is not too bad considering the general ill health of live music. there are maybe half a dozen bars downtown that feature live bands regularly. on a larger scale we have a house of blues and a hard rock live venue, plus two arenas for really big shows. if you consider the whole metro area there are dozens of places that hire bands of various types. pro cover bands find work in the convention business and the tourist business, which are both very big here. all in all, the scene is not too bad.

but like most places, the number of bands in this town is truly staggering! there must be several hundred of them, all fighting for their little piece of the pie. i'm kind of glad drumming isn't my full time job or i'd really be scrambling!
 

Eric

Senior Member
I'm very happy to be living as a musician in Chicago. We have the same challenges as the other scenes, but the fact remains that we have tourism traffic because of our music scene, so the city isn't going to make it impossible to play. In fact the city sponsors many concerts and festivals per year, including an outdoor concert for about 5,000-10,000 people I did last summer-and they even commisioned an original composition for it. Once a music scene is strongly tied to a city's culture, such as New Orleans, New York, Nashville, etc., it can survive and occasionally flourish. I'm sorry you're scene is such a downer.
 

Moldy

Silver Member
Haven't gigged out here but been to a few gigs. Quality of musicians is pretty poor and not that many places to gig in Tacoma. I hear Seattle is good, though. Then again, why wouldn't it be?
 

fireems343

Junior Member
It is fairly decent in Dayton Ohio, (I know right!) there are many venues regardless of type of music or background... Here lately I have been gigging, about 3 to 4 times per month for around $600 for a 4 piece band... Not great but pretty decent I suppose.
 

Pollyanna

Platinum Member
Good that the drought isn't everywhere. Do people have an idea about the gaming machine licensing laws in their area? That's what gave our live scene such a hit - the laws changed and pubs stopped hiring bands and instead installed poker machines.

That made the bar owners more $$, provided fewer logistical headaches and kept them from falling foul of noise laws. There has been a recent law change for small establishments and I'm seeing a few more restaurant/cafe type gigs opening up, although some of them will probably be taken by soloists and duos backed with sequencers.
 

MikeM

Platinum Member
I hear Seattle is good, though. Then again, why wouldn't it be?
It's still pretty good. There is still residual interest in original music in the wake of early '90s around here. While it isn't as engerized as it was then (and it was, for sure), there are still plenty of places to play. Sometimes we even get paid, although usually it's like 34 bucks to split between 4 people.

It's funny though; most of the clubs that had original music back in the day are all gone. But it's also been like whack-a-mole because there's a new one coming up for every one that goes down (not quite, but close).

I have no idea what the cover band situation is, though. I know a guy who's sister used to play in a cover band and I hear they did pretty well.
There has been a recent law change for small establishments and I'm seeing a few more restaurant/cafe type gigs opening up, although some of them will probably be taken by soloists and duos backed with sequencers.
Uh oh, sounds like you better brush up on your bongo chops!
 

Moldy

Silver Member
Plenty of casinos out here, too. I would imagine they hire entertainment, big and small (BB King was performing at a casino north of Seattle back in November).

It's just Tacoma that's overly dead. Much like the smell the port emits.
 

mcbike

Silver Member
Plenty of casinos out here, too. I would imagine they hire entertainment, big and small (BB King was performing at a casino north of Seattle back in November).

It's just Tacoma that's overly dead. Much like the smell the port emits.
I played a show in tacoma 6 or 7 years ago at BOBS JAVA JIVE. seemed like a really cool place. It had this sort of tiki vibe and the bar was inside a giant kettle! I remember feeling like I was playing at some club old 50's bands would play at running up and down the west coast.

Some kid in the opening band tried to sell me weed, and then tried to give me weed. lol. I think we decided not to stay the night there and just trucked it up to seattle for the next show.

 
The problem with Brisbane (Aus) is that all the venues are slowly shutting down or converting to non-live venues. It's getting worse and worse. Now there's barely a few larger venues.
 

Pollyanna

Platinum Member
The problem with Brisbane (Aus) is that all the venues are slowly shutting down or converting to non-live venues. It's getting worse and worse. Now there's barely a few larger venues.
Let me guess ... gaming machines? I wish they'd just put the damn things in casinos and clubs and leave our venues alone!

MikeM said:
Uh oh, sounds like you better brush up on your bongo chops!
Yup, you gottit. I have a small kit (Rhythm Traveller) with 16" kick drum and use a fluffy Vater bomber on the pedal, plus a djembe - and my trusty Regal Tip brushes. I can scale down to just snare and djembe if need be.
 

MikeM

Platinum Member
It's just Tacoma that's overly dead. Much like the smell the port emits.
There's always Hell's Kitchen. I haven't played there in a while, but it was cool the last time I was there.

But I agree that Tacoma is lame (I was born there). I hate it!
 

Tropellor

Senior Member
The problem with Brisbane (Aus) is that all the venues are slowly shutting down or converting to non-live venues. It's getting worse and worse. Now there's barely a few larger venues.
That's not entirely true, Brisbane is on the rise (again) with more live music being offered than the last few years, we went through a bit of a slump in 2003-7 but it's been on the rise since. I agree Nick, there aren't a whole lot of venues, but think about venues like The Clubouse, X&Y, The Joynt and The Hive opening up and offering alot of original live music. I still gig regularly around Brisbane, but if you want more gigs, you just need to travel out of town and do them (I'm playing Yamba and Byron this weekend).

Polly, I don't think it's all the gaming machines here in QLD, but I think that axing of the POPE law in NSW has helped at least get some live music back in the scene. Pokies are an endless battle for live music, the publicans see Live music as a hassle and risk, whereas Pokies are a safe revenue generator.

I'm staying Positive that Brisbane will continue building the Live Music Scene, and there are lots of organisations that see the same vision, we just need to make it happen. In saying that, it's not all about the venues, the punters need to appreciate Live Music for it to survive. The more people that come out and see live music, means more money gets injected into the scene and it stays alive and healthy.

Ok, i'm done.
 

Moldy

Silver Member
I have yet to go to Hell's Kitchen, but I'll make it a point to go there within the next month or so. My limited experience so far has been one show at the Viaduct: a semi-run down all ages venue on South Tacoma Way. Usually features screamo of some sort :| Except for that one reggae-rock style group...
 

eclipseownzu

Gold Member
We do pretty well here in Northern California. Funny you mention Casino's Poly, because the casinos here and in Reno pay VERY well. They are hard gigs to get, but when we do get into one, it is always a fun, profitable evening.

Its funny because small towns up here have some great clubs. In the city we have to compete with dance clubs, but out in the sticks, the local bar is the only show in town. Those shows are a blast. Drunk rednecks are the best!
 
That's not entirely true, Brisbane is on the rise (again) with more live music being offered than the last few years, we went through a bit of a slump in 2003-7 but it's been on the rise since. I agree Nick, there aren't a whole lot of venues, but think about venues like The Clubouse, X&Y, The Joynt and The Hive opening up and offering alot of original live music. I still gig regularly around Brisbane, but if you want more gigs, you just need to travel out of town and do them (I'm playing Yamba and Byron this weekend).

Polly, I don't think it's all the gaming machines here in QLD, but I think that axing of the POPE law in NSW has helped at least get some live music back in the scene. Pokies are an endless battle for live music, the publicans see Live music as a hassle and risk, whereas Pokies are a safe revenue generator.

I'm staying Positive that Brisbane will continue building the Live Music Scene, and there are lots of organisations that see the same vision, we just need to make it happen. In saying that, it's not all about the venues, the punters need to appreciate Live Music for it to survive. The more people that come out and see live music, means more money gets injected into the scene and it stays alive and healthy.

Ok, i'm done.
Well I probably made it sound worse than it is but some decent venues are shutting down lately which sucks, like the Arena and others.

We've played The Zoo a few times, X&Y recently, The Hive and The Globe a few times among others. They're good venues. I hope by the time we're playing big venues there's still some big ones left tho.
 
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