Now that I know the pearl is a faux finish, the decision is that much easier. Nothing faux about my kits.
Wow, either Sticks is in a very good mood, or he's very tired, or he didn't see that, or he just doesn't care about defending his precious Saturns !!!!the Saturns should be considered a pro kit, even though it isn't Mapex's top-of-the-line
Whilst "technically" intermediate, I'd actually rate 'em a shade higher. Hell Grunt, I'm a fan of the Cat maples....they are a good little intermediate kit that offer great value for the money. There's no doubt the Renowns are a big step up again. The only thing that is not "real Gretsch" about the Renowns, is the "Made in Taiwan" sticker that comes with them.Gretsch Renown. probably one of the better maple kits for being intermediate.
I believe every company has drums that can be classified as "upper" or "lower" in each catagory, some even cross over from one to the other. Renowns could be either upper intermediate or lower pro models, same as the Mapex Saturn series. There are many that can be split in their classifications. Another that comes to mind is the Tama Superstars or Starclassic birch/bubinga drums. A lot of times it's really not the pro, intermediate and beginners labels themselves, but where a particular series stands within the confines of all the kits produced by that one same manufacturer. As everyone knows, great sounds can come from any well made kit with the proper head selection, tuning and of course the player.Whilst "technically" intermediate, I'd actually rate 'em a shade higher. Hell Grunt, I'm a fan of the Cat maples....they are a good little intermediate kit that offer great value for the money. There's no doubt the Renowns are a big step up again. The only thing that is not "real Gretsch" about the Renowns, is the "Made in Taiwan" sticker that comes with them.
If only we could convince people that many countries outside of the USA are perfectly capable of making quality products, I doubt we'd ever the see Renowns frowned upon for not being "high end" again. ;-)
I think kits like Gretsch Renowns and perhaps even Ludwig Centennials (along with a few others) may deserve their own sub-category......"Upper intermediate" anyone??
I have a kit that almost fits this bill. The hardware and hoops are sturdy but the rest of the description is spot on.I consider intermediate features:
- good tone woods like birch or maple, not poplar or basswood, but lower grade woods (asian maple instead of american)
- lacquered finishes
- 8-lug bass drums and snares instead of 10
- Lower grade hardware, flimsy hoops
- Lower grade heads from factory (like Remo UX, UT..)
So what's you opinion??
Hey buddy. Found some info for you.So who makes these Mapex drums? Are they a new company? Don't really know anything about them.
yeah actually thats a really nice kit too.. freaking huge sound and it's so light... (thank god)Anyone checked out Yamaha's Rock Tour kit?
I currently am playing on one, and it's killer!!
I get so many compliments from other drummers and sound guys at gigs on how it sounds miced up, and I get a LOT of compliments from everyone on the finish...
i heard (at least in australia) that #1 seller of drums is yamaha, followed 2nd by KHS.blurb about khs/mapex