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Sounds good to me.
Never heard of it before - what do you grizzled veterans think?
Never heard of it before - what do you grizzled veterans think?
Interesting - I've often wondered how many impressive licks it's possible to memorise and how much use they actually are - beyond good coordination practice.I always feel a bit conflicted about stuff like this.
It seems to me that drumming is continually going further and further in this direction where it's about memorizing these short linear patterns. You work these short patterns up to speed, you regurgitate them, and you end up with something "impressive." It's "impressive" because the end result is visually a blur of sticks, and auditorily a blur of sound.
Unfortunately, to me at least, it's rarely a genuinely interesting rhythmic phrase.
When I first heard Krupa's solo on Drum Boogie (the JATP version), I was immediately struck by the little phrases that he created with the accents. To this day, decades later, I can still sing the beginning of that solo to myself. It was basically a song.
And the same can be said of the solos from Bonham and Roy and Max...etc. etc. etc.
As Todd pointed out, Gadd plays things like what is demonstrated in this video. However, when Gadd does so, it's done in such a way that it's an actual musical phrase...connected to other musical phrases. Perhaps that's how the lady in this video uses the lick as well. I hope so.
Unfortunately, taking it out of context and showing it as she does runs the risk of giving people a false idea of what drumming is actually about.
The Patchwork Quilt approach to playing sounds disastrous to me too!I think as an exercise this is fine. Definitely nothing wrong with practicing various fills (in addition to grooves) to work up your facility behind the kit.
However, learning something like this just to regurgitate it later into a song is just the wrong way to approach drumming, because that has nothing to do with musicianship. When I’m coming up with parts for original music, any time I play a fill it’s because the music is saying to me that a fill is needed and the music pretty much dictates how that fill comes out of me. In other words, there are never any “premeditated” fills that I try to fit in somewhere (though if I come up with one I like in a particular spot, I’ll try to remember that fill and play it there again).
So for me, the usefulness of videos like this really depends on how you intend to use it.
Yeah, I actually thought this particular fill sounded a lot better when she was playing it way slower. That fast and it's just a sheet of sound. At about the halfway point, it sounded crazy tasty.When I first heard Krupa's solo on Drum Boogie (the JATP version), I was immediately struck by the little phrases that he created with the accents. To this day, decades later, I can still sing the beginning of that solo to myself. It was basically a song.
And the same can be said of the solos from Bonham and Roy and Max...etc. etc. etc.
As Todd pointed out, Gadd plays things like what is demonstrated in this video. However, when Gadd does so, it's done in such a way that it's an actual musical phrase...connected to other musical phrases. Perhaps that's how the lady in this video uses the lick as well. I hope so.
Gordy Knudtson has an entire book dedicated to developing vocabulary in exactly this way.Years ago I read a Casey Scheurell article showing you how to develop a phrase similar to the lick above, in a musical way. It went something like - for every 1/8 note play KRL for every 1/8 note rest, play RLL. So a 1/4 note would be KRLRLL. If you use something like Reed's Syncopation to get some rhythms going - the melody line is defined by the Kick.
I found this approach easier than forcing the issue with a static lick.
Gordy Knudtson has an entire book dedicated to developing vocabulary in exactly this way.
You’re right - she is entertaining and I’m more likely to watch her instead of some guy that has no social skillsI like Emma! She's got a fun personality, is a great ambassador for drumming, and shares educational stuff for free. There's a lot worse content out there.
I sometimes think about how differently my life might have turned out if I'd had access to this sort of information when I was 15.A free drum lesson available to access 24/7 at the tips of our fingers?? I'll take all I can get.
Some remember at time when this didn't exist.
I like her but I like this guy better:Sounds good to me.
Never heard of it before - what do you grizzled veterans think?
It depends on what people got into drumming for, if they just want to impress people, this may be the way to go, if they really want to learn then not. I believe nobody will be getting the wrong idea unless they choose to just learn some licks like the above to try to sound impressive.I always feel a bit conflicted about stuff like this.
It seems to me that drumming is continually going further and further in this direction where it's about memorizing these short linear patterns. You work these short patterns up to speed, you regurgitate them, and you end up with something "impressive." It's "impressive" because the end result is visually a blur of sticks, and auditorily a blur of sound.
Unfortunately, to me at least, it's rarely a genuinely interesting rhythmic phrase.
When I first heard Krupa's solo on Drum Boogie (the JATP version), I was immediately struck by the little phrases that he created with the accents. To this day, decades later, I can still sing the beginning of that solo to myself. It was basically a song.
And the same can be said of the solos from Bonham and Roy and Max...etc. etc. etc.
As Todd pointed out, Gadd plays things like what is demonstrated in this video. However, when Gadd does so, it's done in such a way that it's an actual musical phrase...connected to other musical phrases. Perhaps that's how the lady in this video uses the lick as well. I hope so.
Unfortunately, taking it out of context and showing it as she does runs the risk of giving people a false idea of what drumming is actually about.