Stones first show....

markiet1966

Senior Member
Has anyone thought that they may still be doing it because they love it? I can't imagine that they're simply doing it for the money, and they're certainly in a position where they're not dictated to by record companies anymore. I can't imagine giving up playing due to the death of a bandmate, maybe they just want to carry on doing what they love?
 

opentune

Platinum Member
Before dumping on the Stones, recall how Charlie was an extremely private person, and for his family's sake, maybe did not want some kind of media frenzy at his funeral, which might ensue had Mick, Keith, Ron and Bill shown up.

Charlie also chose and approved of Jordan filling in for him. They needed to do this tour, it was cancelled last year, and they had the commitment.
Lastly, at $4000/ticket, people clearly need and want to see them, and they clearly like playing.
 

Thin Shell

Well-known member
I kind of feel the same way about Styx and Todd. He clearly has much more technique than John did, and from the videos I have seen, IMO over plays on all of the old stuff. So he is very different. Steve is a great drummer and will not be the same as Charlie, although Steve will probably simplify rather than over play. As long as their employers approve and the audience approves, who am I to say it isn't a good fit. I have talked to people who have seen Styx with Todd and they loved the show. The same will hold true for the Stones with Steve.

A band is a business. If the surviving members want to continue, that is their call. Not mine.
 

organworthyplayer337

Well-known member
Before dumping on the Stones, recall how Charlie was an extremely private person, and for his family's sake, maybe did not want some kind of media frenzy at his funeral, which might ensue had Mick, Keith, Ron and Bill shown up.

Charlie also chose and approved of Jordan filling in for him. They needed to do this tour, it was cancelled last year, and they had the commitment.
Lastly, at $4000/ticket, people clearly need and want to see them, and they clearly like playing.
Holy crap, $4k a ticket??? Jesus... lol
 

J-W

Well-known member
Holy crap, $4k a ticket??? Jesus... lol

Yep. That's floor seats up front. It's "only" in the 4-700 dollar range for lower bowl seats, though.
Crazy, IMO.

What's even crazier is that Infamous Beater thinks that those prices draw the casual listener who wouldn't notice something just a little bit different about their drummer. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Hilarious!
 

someguy01

Well-known member
So, for $4k for a front row seat, will Keith not only get high with me but supply the drugs? He should.
 

J-W

Well-known member
So, for $4k for a front row seat, will Keith not only get high with me but supply the drugs? He should.

Nope. I'm guessing you have to go with the "Ultimate Front Row VIP package" at $7,878 each to get that.
Cripes, for that kind of money, Mick had better be blowing me while Keith and I get high.


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oldskoolsoul

Silver Member
Given the complete crap playing of mainly Richards about 95% of the shows the past 10 years, even 20 dollars would be too much..

But still, to say that they should quit because a band member died is just ridiculous..

Who is anyone here or everywhere to decide if The Stones are allowed to play or not..?

And besides all that..

I wonder what all the people who complain about “money talks” and “out of respect they should quit” would have answered if Mick would have called THEM to play the gig..

How many would have felt sorry for Charlie too much to refuse…..?

I think i know the answer to that..🙂
 

someguy01

Well-known member
Considering in a 2006 interview Charlie gave his blessings to the band to continue without him if they so desired, I should think that would end any discussion.
Still too much money.
 

Bo Eder

Platinum Member
So, for $4k for a front row seat, will Keith not only get high with me but supply the drugs? He should.
Wow. That's amazing. I balked at the $300-$500 range of tickets and smartly decided I couldn't afford that! People have the money, and the Stones can get those kind of ticket prices, more power to 'em. I'll just have to enjoy Charlie and the boys on video and the radio. How cool is it to know you were the soundtrack for so many people's lives for the last 50 years? I consider myself lucky to just be able to go out and play ;)

Nope. I'm guessing you have to go with the "Ultimate Front Row VIP package" at $7,878 each to get that.
Cripes, for that kind of money, Mick had better be blowing me while Keith and I get high.


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jazzerooty

Junior Member
It's ludicrous to think the band was disrespecting Charlie. They adored the man. If they had attended, the Watts family would have to endure a media circus. A spectacle. I guessing it was out of respect for the family, and trying to avoid a scene. Charlie hated scenes.

I didn't want to listen to the vid. I think Steve Jordan is a terrific drummer. But anyone trying to replace the only drummer the Stones ever had will come up short, no matter how good they play. The earlier poster's remarks about the Kraft Family are right on. WTF were they playing for that bastard?
 

someguy01

Well-known member
WTF were they playing for that bastard?
$. $$$$$. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
I'm hoping they took that dirty old man for as much money as they could get and then another 20%.
 

oldskoolsoul

Silver Member
Before this thread i never heard of Robert Kraft and i am also not interested enough to look him on google or something, since such people are all the same anyway..

If i would have needed to check every clients-, bar owners-, club owners-, etc history to see if they align with my personal views before i go play for them, most likely i wouldnt have played 1 gig in my life..

Robert Kraft, no Robert Kraft, not relevant at all for this..

People just get emotional because Charlie died and The Stones still dare to play…and even for lots of money most likely…

I say, if that makes them and the audience happy, let them..

Simple as that..🙂
 

ToneT

Well-known member
Oh yeah, covid of course plays a massive impact. After you factor in forced isolation issues there would be a chance they would be denied entry back into America.

For a band of their power and stature I'm sure they would have been ok. Movie stars are jetting all over the world now, for example.

Obviously there's a risk involved and maybe they decided against that but personally speaking if someone I was in a band with for around 60 years died there's no chance I would miss their funeral.

Sod the money and even the tour, your friends and family are more important.

Money talks though, I guess. But that's just my personal opinion.
Oh yeah; money talks, bullshit walks.
Missed Charlie's funeral. Pretty odd to me!
If Jagger called and offered this nobody the gig I'd say thanks but no thanks.
If I were wealthy and could afford a front-row seat I'd pass.
Out of respect for Charlie I'd end it after this tour.
They are well passed their prime!
Just my $0.02
 

Lee-Bro

Senior Member
Supply and demand coupled with the ability to meet the demand. I hope The Rolling Stones earns as much income as their business model will allow. It's their business (however they have it established and divvied up) and whatever they want to do, is up to them. Fans have no ownership in the business, regardless of the sentimental attachment to songs or memories. If the fan base doesn't want to pay the prices, doesn't like the albums, or the on-stage band lineup, they can simply not buy tickets, merch, or albums. If this negatively impacts business (read: the Rolling Stones shareholders) enough, they they may make changes that they feel the fans will like enough to give them money again.

If Kieth Richards, Mick Jagger, and Ronnie Wood retired and hired Yngwie Malmsteen, Phil Anselmo, and Steve Vai to replace them on tour, that's entirely up to them. And regardless of how anyone would feel, that would be, "The Rolling Stones." Because at the end of the day, The Rolling Stones are whomever the shareholders puts on stage and says, "That's the band."
 
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