Sound proofing

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I looked around and didn't see what I was looking for, I probably missed it. If I did let me know. I basically want to sound proof a room a little bit. It's an upstairs bed room. I don't want to go all put, but what it a little quiter for the neighbors. I want to put my drums in the corner and sound proof the two walls it's facing.

1) Will this do anything at all?
2) I saw some "soundproofing" adhesive squares on Amazon for a decent price. Has anyone tried these?
3) I open to advice.


Thanks!
 
In all honesty, no. To soundproof, youd have to build another wall inside your walls. They may "treat" the sound in a minor aspect, but no, they wont work to "soundproof" .
 
I have 8 large, thick moving blankets I bought from Norther Tool hung up around my bonus room, which is my band's practice room. Most are hung on curtain rods over the windows and two are draped over wheeled panels that can move around the room. I am quite happy with their ability to muffle sound in the room and, as far as I know, reduce the sound going out to the neighbors.

I think another important thing is to try to schedule your practicing and tell your neighbors when you plan to play, that way they won't perceive it as random noise that may never stop. Instead, they may decide to go grocery shopping at that time and they will know that it will be over in 1 hour or 2 hours.
 
hang thick heavy blankets (oh! Post #4)..ceiling to floor all the walls, wife'll love it +/-
and carpeting on the floor and...
 
two concurrent threads happening

 
I looked around and didn't see what I was looking for, I probably missed it. If I did let me know. I basically want to sound proof a room a little bit. It's an upstairs bed room. I don't want to go all put, but what it a little quiter for the neighbors. I want to put my drums in the corner and sound proof the two walls it's facing.

1) Will this do anything at all?
2) I saw some "soundproofing" adhesive squares on Amazon for a decent price. Has anyone tried these?
3) I open to advice.


Thanks!
There's a huge range of possibilities here - from doing things that won't really help at all (like your #2 there) and doing things that are probably way out of your budget (or ability to modify your dwelling). But...

... that doesn't mean that there might things that could be done that might help. As you put it - to make it a bit quieter for your neighbors.

Sound travels from your drums to your neighbors in basically three ways - directly though the air, indirectly by making the wall between you and your neighbor vibrate - passing the sound the drum onto your neighbor. That vibration can happen directly - bass sitting of a floor making it vibrate. Or indirectly, loud drum sound hits a wall, making it vibrate, and transmitting it sound outdoors towards the neighbor.

So first - make sure there are no air holes allowing the sound to go straight outdoors.

Second - the best sound proofing comes with two separate, beefy, well sealed rooms, sitting one inside the other - with the inner room floating some form of isolators. Great - very expensive and chews up tons of space. And again, really expensive.

So less good would be one beefy, well sealed room. Still probably beyond your budget.

Anyway long story short - let's look at the walls (wall) between your drums and the neighbor. Up stairs there probably isn't a door. But there's probably a window. Consider your wall which likely comprises - a layer of drywall, then an airspace, then some form of siding (stucco or other stuff). That's fairly beefy - but the window, absolutely far less so.

One common solution is to make a window plug - a beefy, sort of panel that can be placed to seal off and block the window. Weatherstripped so no air gets around it - and beefy enough to kind of match the wall itself.

Beyond that - it's pretty much a case of making the walls beefier. Meaning adding another layer of drywall - but this is more complicated than that - because reeks havoc on all of the room's moulding (window, door frames, baseboards, etc.)

But window plugs can be much more temporary.

I've never done it - but I would imagine sitting the drums on a piece of plywood - sitting off the floor on neoprene/rubber spacer - could help decouple the bass drum from the structure.

So mainly, focus on air leaks and beefy up windows and doors.
 
I looked around and didn't see what I was looking for, I probably missed it. If I did let me know. I basically want to sound proof a room a little bit. It's an upstairs bed room. I don't want to go all put, but what it a little quiter for the neighbors. I want to put my drums in the corner and sound proof the two walls it's facing.

1) Will this do anything at all?
2) I saw some "soundproofing" adhesive squares on Amazon for a decent price. Has anyone tried these?
3) I open to advice.


Thanks!
Acoustic foam panels will do nothing..drywall and carpet on walls and floor is a good starting point..windows need be covered with heavy carpet or board..drywall should be an inch from the wall with 2" celotex or polystyrene strips fixed with ac50 sealant adhesive..its the cheapest way.
 
I have 8 large, thick moving blankets I bought from Norther Tool hung up around my bonus room, which is my band's practice room. Most are hung on curtain rods over the windows and two are draped over wheeled panels that can move around the room. I am quite happy with their ability to muffle sound in the room and, as far as I know, reduce the sound going out to the neighbors.

I think another important thing is to try to schedule your practicing and tell your neighbors when you plan to play, that way they won't perceive it as random noise that may never stop. Instead, they may decide to go grocery shopping at that time and they will know that it will be over in 1 hour or 2 hours.

I like your 2-pronged approach to reducing noise: purchasing cheap moving blankets and getting tight with the neighbors.

I live out in the country and am in the midst of building a "band barn". The basic shell is just days from completion and is looking good. I have yet to decide how I'm going to insulate, or even if I need to. It could be virtually sound proof or a boomy amplifier. At this point, I just don't know.

As for neighbors... I have very few. I do expect some sound to leak out. Like you recommend, I'm going to chat with my neighbors about what I'm doing. Most already know, but I think a little kindness goes a long way.
 
I saw some "soundproofing" adhesive squares on Amazon for a decent price. Has anyone tried these?
I have 8 large, thick moving blankets...
If you buy moving blankets, be sure to get the heavy ones - usually filled with shredded, recycled denim (old jeans). If you have trouble finding those, look for a company that sells supplies to truckers. Lighter, synthetic blankets will do next to nothing.
 
Anyone using blankets, be sure to consider fireproofing them.
 
My kit is in a walkout basement directly in front of a sliding glass patio door but it faces an interior wall, not towards the glass slider. And it's only about 10' from a window. I live in the burbs, so houses are pretty close together. I took an old foldable, 3 section foam exercise mat...the ones you used in gym class...that are 2-3" thick. It fit into the sliding door opening almost perfectly. I sandwiched that between 2 layers of 3/4" soundboard and then bolted 2 layers of 3/4" plywood on both sides and inserted it in the sliding door frame. Same idea for the 48"x48" window...sans foam material. It is impressive how much that cut down on external noise. You can hear thumping outside, but if you are more than 50' away it's barely noticeable. Been playing in that space for 6+ years...no complaints. But neighbors probably think we have something nefarious going on with plywood in the door/window.
 

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No! You need them flammable so you can rehearse the pyro parts of the gig!
Careful...we are only drummers and someone will take you seriously!
 
Layers. Vibrations conduct, so you need to make the vibrations travel through one medium to another to another to another to…

My friend soundproofed his upstairs bedroom. He did a room in a room. It worked, except he didn’t build a floating floor, so the vibrations had an easy way to travel out.

My other friend soundproofed his garage. He hung packing blankets on the walls. It did practically nothing. He rehung the packing blankets from the ceiling, a couple of inches in front of the walls. It worked better. He hung a second row of packing blankets a few inches in front of those—it was virtually soundproofed at that point. Sound had to travel through the air—>blanket—>air—>blanket—>air—>wall—>outside. You could *barely* hear the sound from right outside.
 
Get the drum kit on as many layers away from the floor (and especially concrete) as you can. My drum room has a thick carpet pad…the carpet…2 layers of rubberized gym flooring left over from when I turned one of my bedrooms into a workout room.…then a nice thick zildjian drum rug. And as already mentioned…window treatments are a must. I have fire proof “moon dream” sound curtains that work decent and look good….but acrylic plugs are probably even better or can be used in conjunction with. I also have a ton of auralex bass traps.

I suppose a drum riser is an option too…i did not do that. So far 3 years in no cops. A room in a room was not an option for me.
 
Get the drum kit on as many layers away from the floor (and especially concrete) as you can.
Are you saying concrete transfers sound? I figured a concrete floor would be great for not letting sound go through it, especially when it's on the ground. Not being a butt head I'm asking seriously. My drums are on a concrete floor with a rug on it.
 
Are you saying concrete transfers sound? I figured a concrete floor would be great for not letting sound go through it, especially when it's on the ground. Not being a butt head I'm asking seriously. My drums are on a concrete floor with a rug on it.
No problem…..I am not a sound proofing expert by any means…but I’ve always thought the concrete is such a good barrier that the sound waves actually reflect off of it and look for the easiest way out of the room (like a window). When we hit drums, like a floor tom, a lot of the sound is heading down and ricochets back off of it. If you can provide as much “shock absorption” between the drum kit and the concrete, you will limit some this. It’s probably small, but every little thing you can add to the equation might make the difference. It’s a cumulative effect each sound treatment adds up to.
 
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