I Thought AVH just connected two identical sided bass drums.
What's the opposite of one of these, where people (again, DW I think) have a "mini" drum in-front of the kick, like a 12" or something?
I discovered that I don't get that much more out of a 24" that I do with a 22", so I've been sticking to 22" lately because it works. Because of this, personally, I don't think I'd get more out of the 23" that I'm not already getting from a 22".
The 23x15 fits perfectly on my 22" ahead bag . For gigs i prefer the 23, even for the 3 inches less, i can’t imagine carrying a 22x20 , For the drumheads i don’t know what country you are living , i live in the south of europe and i can get a drumhead coming from 3000km in 4 days .Agreed. I have a Gretsch 22x20 "cannon kick" whose extra length splits the difference between the 24 and the 22. It still fits in a 22" case and gives me all the punch and boom I could want.
I don't see any 23" cases or heads for that DW drum at any drum shop I walk into. I'd love to play one, but I feel owning & gigging with it would be more trouble than it's worth.
That's a sub-kick. It's basically a Yamaha NS10 speaker that is wired as a microphone. It's made to pick up low end frequencies that a small-diameter microphone cannot.
It's ultimately a friendly consumer re-packaging of an old "speaker as microphone" studio trick.
Indeed.To add. It is a custom speaker specially made for the SKRM.
The 23x15 fits perfectly on my 22" ahead bag . For gigs i prefer the 23, even for the 3 inches less, i can’t imagine carrying a 22x20 , For the drumheads i don’t know what country you are living , i live in the south of europe and i can get a drumhead coming from 3000km in 4 days .
I think I need an 11" tomThe only DW guy I can think of that might still use one is Mick Fleetwood. Not DW related but AVH was the subwoofer guy in the 70s/80s.
A nice idea but totally impractical for most working drummers. A good bass drum mic is smaller and does the same thing and fits in a mic case.
The 23" bass drum don't get me started....lets make something nobody stocks heads for and was completely uneccesary in the first place, but DW overthink and/or overengineer something....who'da thunk it!
Making the bass drum drum longer by adding the same diameter woofer doesn't make too much sense to me, but Billy Ward used to use a 8x28 woofer with his 12x20 bass drum. He maintained he loved the feel and punch of the 12x20 married with the bigger sound and resonance the woofer added. Makes sense. (There was a great demo on YouTube where he gets his sound engineer to remove the drum while he's playing and then put it back. The difference is vivid - I think Hudson Music have removed it now.)
He actually combined two bass drums, end to end. Not really the same concept.AVH was the subwoofer guy in the 70s/80s.
I think I need an 11" tom
He also did tube extension out of the second attached bass drum, effectively making it almost 3 bass drums deep........SO BAD ASS!!!!He actually combined two bass drums, end to end. Not really the same concept.
That's one opinion. I think they are awesome and can't be replicated once you've dialed in a subwoofer correctly. A ton of the hate for the subwoofer comes from not knowing how to set them up correctly in my opinion.I think we all knew it was a fad that wouldn't last long when neither Pearl nor Tama even bothered to come out with their own version.
As mentioned, it was highly impractical for the average working drummer. And the cost of essentially buying another drum that you don't even get the pleasure of hitting was lost on most people.
And the sonic benefits that came from using one, while measurable, were small compared to the cost. And once the drums are blended in with the full band, thought a PA or mixing console, I doubt most anyone could hear the real difference. So it was a lot of money and time to achieve fractional, if not negligible, improvement.