Sabian HHX Complex and series revamp

I went by my local drum shop today to pick up a bass drum head and he told me that he had just been sent 3 new HHX crashes, all 18 in. HHX Complex crash, HHX Thin crash, and HHX Medium crash. Coming out next year, they are doing a revamp just like they did for the AAX this year and they're doing the thin/medium/heavy variations. The complex crash was really thin and sounded to me like what Zildjian is trying to do with the K Sweet crashes (kind of dry too). The new HHX models sounded like the AAX ones, so I'm not sure why they made the new AAX sound more like HHX. Didn't care for the thin crash so much but the medium was nice. I had my cymbal bag in the car so I brought in my AAX and HHX X-Plosion crashes (both 18") to compare. The HHX medium goes well with those 2 while the thin and complex models go together well because they are similar. It seems like they're keeping the HHX X-plosion models (he didn't know which other models were staying) and I thought my HHX X-plosion was the most versatile out of those (the medium would be versatile too if it was a little lighter). I hope they keep the HHX X-celerator hats but I'm curious to see which other models stay.
 

Yoshinya

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The new HHX models sounded like the AAX ones, so I'm not sure why they made the new AAX sound more like HHX.
That'd be kind of a misstep for Sabian, because once people figure that out, the sales of the HHX line (which has obviously has been a huge winner for Sabian over the years) might drop. That being said, it seems like Sabian is on this strange tear of not exactly caring what their customers think, so I guess it's in line with that.

It seems like they're keeping the HHX X-plosion models (he didn't know which other models were staying) and I thought my HHX X-plosion was the most versatile out of those (the medium would be versatile too if it was a little lighter). I hope they keep the HHX X-celerator hats but I'm curious to see which other models stay.
I'm guessing they'll do what they did with the AAX line - keep the best sellers (Chris Stankee of Sabian mentioned the X-Plosions are Sabian's #1 selling crash a few years ago), redesign the studio/stage/rock/metal models and rename them thin/medium/heavy (as you reported, they've already done that), as well as prune some of the Signature artist-designed models that haven't sold well for years from the line (AAX examples: Virgil Donati's AAX Saturation Crashes, Mike Portnoy's AAX Max Splashes). I'll almost guarantee that the Dave Weckl-designed Evolution and Legacy models will stay, as at least the Evolutions have been enduringly popular since they were introduced.

Did they get rid of the X-Celerator hats during the AAX line revamp? If so, I'd imagine the HHX X-Celerators are also on the chopping block this time.
 
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That'd be kind of a misstep for Sabian, because once people figure that out, the sales of the HHX line (which has obviously has been a huge winner for Sabian over the years) might drop. That being said, it seems like Sabian is on this strange tear of not exactly caring what their customers think, so I guess it's in line with that.



I'm guessing they'll do what they did with the AAX line - keep the best sellers (Chris Stankee of Sabian mentioned the X-Plosions are Sabian's #1 selling crash a few years ago), redesign the studio/stage/rock/metal models and rename them thin/medium/heavy (as you reported, they've already done that), as well as prune some of the Signature artist-designed models that haven't sold well for years from the line (AAX examples: Virgil Donati's AAX Saturation Crashes, Mike Portnoy's AAX Max Splashes). I'll almost guarantee that the Dave Weckl-designed Evolution and Legacy models will stay, as at least the Evolutions have been enduringly popular since they were introduced.

Did they get rid of the X-Celerator hats during the AAX line revamp? If so, I'd imagine the HHX X-Celerators are also on the chopping block this time.
Yeah I was rather unhappy earlier this year when I finally got my hands on some of the new AAX models and played them and heard how dark they are. Not the piercing bright sound that we've all come to expect from AAX. In general it doesn't sound bad and the hammering looks cool but if I'm reaching for an AAX crash or whatever I don't want it to sound dark like that. The new HHX crashes look similar with the hammering and sound similar too. I'm just hoping that they introduce new models as time goes on that bring back that sound but I think NAMM 2020 will be all about the new HHX models.

They still have the X-Celerator hats.
 
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