Replacing heads on stock starclassic w/b

Ktbartsc

Member
This is my first acoustic set so looking for some advice. I know the stock heads in this kit are not top of the line, so I’d like to order some new ones to play around with and compare sound differences. I was thinking ambassadors for reso heads and coated emperors for batter heads. Would this be a good combo for all the toms, snare and bass drum? I know the bass drum heads are different and I’m mainly just not sure what to do about the snare and bass. I’m not going for any particular sound I just want to get some top of the line heads to start messing around with. Thanks.
 

TJK

Well-known member
Bottom heads on it now are most likely fine and tend to pretty much last years until replacement is needed unlike snare bottom heads which stretch out. Also they are most likely Reno ambassadors or Evans g1. Save your money for the batters.
 

KamaK

Platinum Member
My 2¢:

Always start with a stock single ply over single ply. Ambassador over Ambassador, G1 over G1, etc. This should be the baseline for reference when you want to know what your kit actually sounds like.

Only when you notice a deficiency, or need to tame a particular sonic facet, do you begin to entertain the notion of control a dot/ring/top.

Unpopular opinion:

Double ply heads (Emperors) are defective by their design. It is not possible to achieve a permanent uniform tension across the surface given the mounting mechanism. I would recommend these heads only for community kits where you want a muted sound and the durability to withstand beginner students and their dent-inducing shenanigans.
 

ineedaclutch

Platinum Member
Don't they still come with Evans G2 over G1? My Starclassic Maple and B/B did iirc. Both kicks love an Emad batter over a coated Ambassador or ported Aquarian Regulator.
 
Don't they still come with Evans G2 over G1? My Starclassic Maple and B/B did iirc. Both kicks love an Emad batter over a coated Ambassador or ported Aquarian Regulator.
I would just stick with these , which is what they come with, until you find what sound “you” want . Nothing wrong with em 👍🏻

From Tama’s site, Description of heads that come with the star classics . Did yours not come with these???

EVANS® Heads
Evans® heads are featured on all Starclassic drums (except bass drum front heads). On the rack and floor toms, Genera G2 2-ply clear batter heads and TAMA Power Craft II 1-ply clear bottom heads provide both durability and solid sound. Starclassic bass drums are fitted with Genera EQ4 clear batter heads.
 

Ktbartsc

Member
Yes, it comes with clear G2 batter and powercraftII reso heads. I watched the popular Portland YouTube review of the kit, and they said the reso heads were not industry standard and recommended replacing them out of the box. I understand that these aren’t “bad” heads by any means, but since I’m going to eventually need new heads anyway, I wanted to get a variety of high quality heads that I can switch out/play around with to get a feel for the sonic differences.
 

ineedaclutch

Platinum Member
I didn't know they changed the reso heads. My SC B/B ended up with coated G2 over clear G1 on the toms. The SC Maple always wears coated G1 over clear G1 on the toms. The only heads neither kit liked was the black Suede Emperors.
 

Ktbartsc

Member
I’m thinking of sticking with the clear G2 batter heads for now, and just replacing the Power Craft II reso heads with Ambassadors to see the difference.
 

Winston_Wolf

Platinum Member
If you're keeping the G2 top heads, I'd recommend an Evans bottom head. G1 seems to be the standard go-to but I really like the EC Reso head.

But if it were me, I'd just tune up and play with the stock heads. I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with any of them, and it would help you form a baseline standard sound in your head. That way you're armed with a better idea of what you want when the first set begins to wear.
 

cbphoto

Gold Member
I thought all Starclassic kits came with Evans G1 or G2 over a Genera Reso (Unless Tama has changed that policy in the last 6 months). Those are premium drum heads.

My suggestion: Buy a new 1-ply head from each company (Remo, Evans, Aquarian) and give it a go. If you use your 12" tom to analyze the sounds, the $45 experiment will teach you plenty.
 

mike d

Silver Member
I think the stock heads are pretty good (at least were on my B/B). They were clear G2s over Tama branded clear (which I heard are just G1s). I like to experiment a lot though, so I've swapped out a lot of heads just to see what might work better. I've mainly stuck with Evans, just because I've never had an issue with their quality, and there are so many options. Right now I have UV1's on my two rack toms (10" & 12") and G2 coated on my two floors (16" & 18"). The floors ring too much for me with the UV1s, and the rack toms sound a little "pinched" for lack of a better term with G2's compared to the UV1's. I have Genera clear resos on the bottom of all of them. I like the sound I'm getting now quite a bit, but look forward to trying the new UV2s on the 16" and 18".
 

Tamaefx

Silver Member
About the stock reso head, maybe you should check first before buying a pack of G1.
Take one off and compare to a G1.
On my former Silverstar, the reso head were really bad quality, much thinner than a G1; they sounded like crap.

On the contrary on an older Rockstar custom, the reso head were Tama Powercraft 2 ; they were very close to G1, in term of thickness, elasticity and sound. The only difference was the heavier skin hoop.
 
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