Remo vs Evans

kanefsky

Senior Member
Weird, I've had the same type Remo Coated Controlled Reverse Dot head on my gigging snare the last couple of years and there no problems whatsoever.
What does "no problems" mean? Are you saying that the coating doesn't show stick marks almost from the moment you start using it, or just that you don't care about the stick marks? Opentune made a valid point that stick marks aren't as important as how the head sounds, but it's really strange that so many people seem to deny that the coating wears any differently on Remo vs. Evans at all. It's almost as bad as Republicans or Democrats refusing to admit to absolutely anything the other side does better :)

I guess sometimes you unfortunately get a dud head.
I've used at least four or five CS heads purchased at different times from different sources and they all start showing stick marks immediately (and with new sticks as well).

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Steve
 

brady

Platinum Member
Don't know what's going on there. Traditionally Evans heads have been regarded as the less durable of the two brands, and that's been my experience. I've never had a Remo head look like that.
I've never seen a Remo head that DIDN'T look like that. The last one I bought quite a few years ago looked like the one in the photo after only tuning it up. I have never been impressed with their coatings...
 

Stroman

Platinum Member
What does "no problems" mean? Are you saying that the coating doesn't show stick marks almost from the moment you start using it, or just that you don't care about the stick marks? Opentune made a valid point that stick marks aren't as important as how the head sounds, but it's really strange that so many people seem to deny that the coating wears any differently on Remo vs. Evans at all. It's almost as bad as Republicans or Democrats refusing to admit to absolutely anything the other side does better :)
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Steve
I'll say that the coatings DO wear differently, for certain. I get some stick marks right away, and the coating in the center will wear smooth after a while on a Remo head. What I DON'T see is the coating worn off in short order or big gouged-out chunks of coating like in the OP.

The marks and smoothed coating don't bother me in the least. I know it takes longer, but have you seen old calf heads? They get all black and shiny in the center, too. To me it is no biggie.
 

fac

Senior Member
I've an Ambassador Coated head in my snare and I've played for much longer than 2.5 hours and still looks like new. Maybe I hit like a kitten, though. On toms I have Aquarian Studio-X heads and Evans EMAD on the kick. I changed all the heads on my beater set around the same time (maybe a couple months ago) after using the cheap heads that came with my drum set for nearly 16 years (gasp!), so I'm not too picky about head wear.
 

AudioWonderland

Silver Member
I'll say that the coatings DO wear differently, for certain. I get some stick marks right away, and the coating in the center will wear smooth after a while on a Remo head. What I DON'T see is the coating worn off in short order or big gouged-out chunks of coating like in the OP.

The marks and smoothed coating don't bother me in the least. I know it takes longer, but have you seen old calf heads? They get all black and shiny in the center, too. To me it is no biggie.
I have seen Remo coating peel in seconds. I have seen it last for months. I cannot for the life of me figure out whats different. I have never seen Evans peel. They all show stick marks from the get go.
 

ThomasTedsmall

Junior Member
My school has hybrid bottoms. We have a lot of durability issues with them since they are so thin. If you are going with Evans, get the Mx5. I personally prefer either a Remo Ebony snare side or a falams xt snare side.
 

Juniper

Gold Member
What does "no problems" mean? Are you saying that the coating doesn't show stick marks almost from the moment you start using it, or just that you don't care about the stick marks? Opentune made a valid point that stick marks aren't as important as how the head sounds, but it's really strange that so many people seem to deny that the coating wears any differently on Remo vs. Evans at all. It's almost as bad as Republicans or Democrats refusing to admit to absolutely anything the other side does better :)

I've used at least four or five CS heads purchased at different times from different sources and they all start showing stick marks immediately (and with new sticks as well).

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Steve
Only stick marks on mine as in imprints of the drum being hit. No loss of coating whatsoever.

I recently wiped the head with a damp cloth as an experiment and it almost looks like brand new head, 2-3 years later.

In my experience the coating wears in different ways on both make of heads.
 

Icetech

Gold Member
I have been really surprised how well my aquarian snare head has held up.. been about 3 months now of nightly playing and it looks fairly new. Just a bit shiny in the center where i hit it. but no major changes other than that.
 

EvansSpecialist

Silver Member
Don't know what's going on there. Traditionally Evans heads have been regarded as the less durable of the two brands, and that's been my experience. I've never had a Remo head look like that.
If you haven't tried the new UV1, now is the time. Ultra durable coating and film with a warm sound and wide tuning range.

Yeah I'm hoping this is just an anomaly that got past Remo QA. I like the coated ambassadors a lot and they hold up well. Perhaps this is just a one time thing but it might make me stop and think before buying a new Remo Controlled Dot next time.
Based on the number of issues we see like this, this is more of the rule than the exception.

I can attest to the exact same thing, i was a remo guys for many years. Amassadors were ok, but I got tired of the emperor coating coming off quickly, seam issues, and the detuning issues - just like you said, it's all been happening for some time.

I have yet to have issues since I switched to Evans several months ago. Now everything I have is using G2 coated or clear, Glass resos and Emad 1's on kicks.
Glad you're enjoying the heads!
 

thebarak

Senior Member
I use Remo Coated Ambassadors, and when I finish, I clean off the stick marks with a Magic Eraser, because I am crazy. They seem to take it well and look like new again. Maybe I just have lucky heads. No coating has come away so far.

I doubt I could pass the blindfold test when comparing different brands of coated heads, but Remo brand is nostalgic for me.
 
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