Rawness

Pollyanna

Platinum Member
These days I find myself being attracted to more raw sounding music.

Not sure if it's an ageing thing or if raw sounds seem fresh given that most modern music is ultra slick.

Do you think rawness will make a comeback or will it be increasingly seen as retrograde, something from which to progress?

I can't offer an opinion, hence the question :)
 

Midnite Zephyr

Platinum Member
These days I find myself being attracted to more raw sounding music.

Not sure if it's an ageing thing or if raw sounds seem fresh given that most modern music is ultra slick.

Do you think rawness will make a comeback or will it be increasingly seen as retrograde, something from which to progress?

I can't offer an opinion, hence the question :)
Everything that was old will become new again. I think there will be a resurgence of rawness in music when the younger generations revolt against the technology of the aged. This might take awhile...
 
I love raw, fuzz filled music. Rawness seems more real and human to me. I'll take a raw, kinda sloppy band with lots of passion over some over produced studio band any day.
 

AndyMC

Senior Member
I agree in preferring raw music it sounds more human and subtle things are lost in over perfection. However I'm not sure if rawness will make a comeback anytime soon. The Black Keys put out a bunch of albums that were just raw blues rock, even with mistakes left on the albums. But then they made the last three heavily produced albums and now they are huge. I think rawness needs more understanding to appreciate sometimes and most people these days don't want to understand things outside their experience, and the radio/tv isn't showing them any raw music. Also depends on the genre, I wouldn't want raw classical or dance music.
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
Do you think rawness will make a comeback or will it be increasingly seen as retrograde, something from which to progress?
Yes, I think that bands with some "rawness" vibes will make a comeback, but there's still a fair amount of bands and music whick have a genuine "raw" sound :)

An example of raw please???
I don't know if this is what Polly meant as "raw", but for me it fit the description, here's a few links to a couple of bands :)

The Dead Weather, Hustle and Cuss (Sutdio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TsNUuMipAAo

The Dead Weather, Hustle and Cuss (Live) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jj-x1sPdrUE

Band Of Skulls, Patterns (Studio) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QnjsHEvaaI

Band Of Skulls, Patterns (Live) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ3QCMmC6Ko&feature=related
 

GruntersDad

Administrator - Mayor
Staff member
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Anthony Amodeo

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if you dig this you should check out stuff from their first album when they were totally raw

Ive LOVED this band for over a decade....sad that it took most people ten years to catch on

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVmJ1bg-6dk

this is my absolute favorite song of theirs...from the 3rd album Rubber Factory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK446tjll2Q

check out the albums

the big come up
thickfreakness
Rubber Factory

their first 3 and best 3

you wont regret checking them out
 

Andy

Administrator
Staff member
Yes please, give me raw, & give me edge :) But I also like slick, & polished, & in my estimation, that's different to uber produced, which I hate.

I'm getting Pol's wide ranging application of raw. Guttural, organic, feeding from the vibe, pulsating rather than precise timing, embracing the whole rather than the minutiae, evoking, provoking, sensual, even tweaking the proverbial primeval nipple :)

But I'm moved by Henri's more defined application of raw. Edgy, unashamed, in yer face, confrontational yet caressing, throbbing, & passionate.

Great great thread! Give me more please :):):):):):):):)
 

The Scorpio

Senior Member
These days I find myself being attracted to more raw sounding music.

Not sure if it's an ageing thing or if raw sounds seem fresh given that most modern music is ultra slick.

Do you think rawness will make a comeback or will it be increasingly seen as retrograde, something from which to progress?

I can't offer an opinion, hence the question :)
We've just come out of a long period of super-slick production, and that has created a vacuum for under-produced, raw music. I see it making a comeback, but as a more mature medium with better production. It just takes time to strike a balance between raw sounding, and what sells.
 

JohnnySomersett

Senior Member
I find pretty much anything produced by Steve Albini to have almost a perfect level of 'raw' to it for my ears. He recently produced an album for a band called Cloud Nothings which is beautifully simple in it's recording:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X1URP5eg6I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIitQNXVgb8&feature=related

Also, his album for his band Shellac called1000 Hurts...man, the drums sound soooo MASSIVE but at the same time so real it makes me tingle...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSNDrYwptzo

Also, who can forget the intro to this song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jn-PRo9KwYc


That guy has a special touch.
 

Mad About Drums

Pollyanna's Agent
if you dig this you should check out stuff from their first album when they were totally raw

Ive LOVED this band for over a decade....sad that it took most people ten years to catch on

:)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVmJ1bg-6dk

this is my absolute favorite song of theirs...from the 3rd album Rubber Factory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pK446tjll2Q

you wont regret checking them out
Wow Pol & Gvda, the Black Keys are very "raw" indeed, loved it, I will listen to their songs, thanks for posting :))

But I'm moved by Henri's more defined application of raw. Edgy, unashamed, in yer face, confrontational yet caressing, throbbing, & passionate.

Great great thread! Give me more please :):):):):):):):)
Glad you enjoyed it Andy ;))

On a more tamed down approach, but still very "raw" in terms of vibes and sounds, there's Black Dub, a band produced and featuring Daniel Lanois :)

I Believe In You http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_0zrd2u3uk&feature=related

Nomad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ydc1DkrtxP8&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL8D1BAE69BCEF7BDF

Surely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypMHl7oI_No&feature=relmfu

I'd Rather Go Blind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e255MtrXG7g

Ring The Alarm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKpV140x7HM&feature=related



... Brian Blade!!!
 

Dr_Watso

Platinum Member
It's starting. Pretty soon we'll be calling you "Polly the Punk Rocker".

Fugazi - Turnover - (Live 1991):
http://youtu.be/gzC0RNkBXM0

"Perfection" is a funny thing. Personally, I simply don't think it should be the goal of a musician.
 

Toolate

Platinum Member
I have to agree Polly. Starting into drums so late in life, I was really shocked to learn that most music to day is played to a click track and then engineered to take out the variations.

The very thought of that is like the most un-American (substitute whatever country you are in there) thing I have ever heard of. Like making you have sex to a click....

Your point here is right on. Lots of Hendrix is like those recordings you posted- a little talk before the track starts, feedback, time swings- almost like real music!!!

Ever listen to Rage Against the Machine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lp3kcHchD1Y

A little heavy maybe, guranteed to be different from anything you have ever heard and but all the raw you will ever need... first album is dynomite.
 

mikel

Platinum Member
Ever noticed that it is so called "raw" music that makes the hair on the back of your neck stand up?
I think that is because it touches something primal, or natural, inside us that atomic clock/doctored music can not. Probably because it is natural for music to vary slightly in tempo when played without a click/computer enhancement.
 

tamadrm

Platinum Member
I just listened to "Chicken Foot" the other day,with Jason Bonham on drums.....these guys COOK.Kenny Aranoff also plays with the band.

Steve B
 
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