Quiet drumming: Flix Sticks vs Lidwish Ultra-Tones vs 7As

Shark Pit

Member
Mini Metallica!!

My youngest endorsed drummer, Charlie Emmons, from the UK is the drummer on a viral video, (about 500,000 hits in 4 days) on a Metallica cover of Enter Sandman. Since he practices with the Ultra Tones, I couldn't be prouder so I just wanted to share the link of these 8 - 10 year old kids with mad skillz from the Newbury School of Rock. News coverage around the world. You gotta love the supportive parents and the teachers. What these kids are doing at 8 - 10 years old? Wait a few more years. The future is bright. Oh, wait...now it's 1,301,000 you tube hits in six (6 days)

http://youtu.be/6CPHnZV0K-k
 
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mikeo

Senior Member
i have the ultra tone 2.0 sticks and the kick beater... these are a good product and perform as advertised... great for quiet practise and would work well playing along with an acoustic guitar or piano.
 

Shark Pit

Member
i have the ultra tone 2.0 sticks and the kick beater... these are a good product and perform as advertised... great for quiet practise and would work well playing along with an acoustic guitar or piano.
Cool! Thanks so much for using the ultra tones and sharing your experience.

Aloha!

Lazaro
 

HMNY

Silver Member
I have the same issue as Metorn, and I can sympathize.

I am a 'weekend warrior' drummer, playing for my own entertainment, often after our three young children have gone to bed, so I have always needed a quiet stick, before I was introduced to the Flix sticks I was using the conventional 'hot rod' style of stick and breaking them at a frustratingly rapid rate, literally leaving a trail of sawdust and broken rods, and making the local drum store very happy!

The Flix sticks are so much more robust, they have a plastic/resin construction that makes them so much more resistant to cracking and snapping.

I also recently had an issue where one of the tone rings fell off, and I tore it putting it back on, and thought I'd have to trash the stick, but found that I could get replacement tone rings (I have recently posted about this, so won't bore everyone with a re-post).

I have been very happy with the Flix sticks, I use the orange set, and they have enough weight and heft that they 'feel' like regular sticks, let me do the same as regular stick, at a much reduced volume level.
 

Shark Pit

Member
That's why we offer replacement tips. If the tip breaks - replace it and continue drum play. I think there are a number of differences in the products, but at least we can anticipate problems like having a need for a quick fix for an expensive item. Not as expensive as drum shields or pads or soundproofing rooms - but expensive compared to a many hard wood sticks.
 

dorfmeister

Senior Member


The Lidwishes with the rest of my arsenal.

The Lidwishes on the kit.....sorry about the bad photo



The Bass Drum Beater



Ok.....so I played these for about 1.5 hours last night and so far with a few caveats I am impressed. The sticks do seem to allow one to vary the dynamic range while keeping the volume low.....The combination of the hard plastic tubing with the thinner flexible tips allows some variability in the way the drums and especially the cymbals are struck......without ever having the volume of my usual 7As. They get more dynamic range than the jstix I also use for low volume playing. These get a better response out of the cymbals, especially the hi-hats, without being super loud.

The bass drum beater gets a really nice low volume thump. I was worried about how this might sound and if I would get any volume at all but I am pleasantly surprised by this beater. I think I like it best about this system.

What I don't like as much:

The sticks are really thin and lightweight.....obviously they need to be to lower the volume but I would really like a handle that would be as thick as the handle of my 7A sticks.....I think that part is more important to me than the weight. A second concern that I have is durability. After 1.5 hours of playing one of the flexible plastic tips has cracked. I am not a particularly hard hitter.


 
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BigtimeGaz

Junior Member
Anyone who's used both Flix Sticks and Lidwish care to revisit this please? I currently use Thunder Rods for quieter drumming, but they break too easily.
 

flash macgyver

New member
orange flix sticks are my favorite. every drummer (except a few medal dudes) who has ever used them on my set, loves them too.
i think the only reason you don't see them everywhere is that guitar center doesnt sell them? they sell bundle wood rod ones and those awful metal ones that tear up your heads. :( i don't understand it. my guess is that it is a wonderful patented tool from a small company that is growing slow and not selling out to large company... i think you will probably see them more now since they finally sell them on amazon!

no I do not work for them... but I bet if the word gets out, they may lower the price - they hold up for quite a while but like anything you beat against things, they do wear out eventually... the do last way longer than the crappy bundle of stick kinds plus they are easier on your heads.

i was looking for a good brush sound many years ago and saw drummer for David gray using them in a music video and had to order my first pair from them directly since i could not find them anywhere else close (i am in austin texas). I saw a quote from that David gray drummer on the front page of their site ha! so they are not that popular.... yet... to me, they sound like they should be very popular. They are the BEST BRUSH I have ever used... works on snare and cymbals great... sounds way better than a traditional brush unless you are going to do really light jazzy stuff... then i'd just get their "classic" fiber brush instead of their "flix stick"



The drums are loud, sometimes are much too loud. You can't hear the music to play along, you damage your ears , your family and neighbours are unhappy.

Neighbours problems can be fixed by extensive and expensive sound proofing of the room.
What I couldn't find are any good topics or reviews on the subject of the the "quiet" sticks or playing techniques to keep it well under 100Db.

So far these two companies are claiming that they have solved the problem:
Flix Sticks: http://www.flixproducts.com/
Ultra Tones: http://lidwishsoulutions.com/

Has anyone tried them yet, separate or side by side and can share his thoughts?
 
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