I mean soft and loud relative to the musical settings they will be used in. The OP wanted a cymbal that would be easy to play with an acoustic combo. What's soft or loud in absolute terms is another conversation altogether.Yes, but drums played ”quietly” is still ”loud” to our ears. My 22” bosphorus was very light 1900grams.
I think, actually in a modern day, many jazz drummers go for the 22” size, because of the lower pitch.Hey guys I'm glad you revitalized this thread, I've sold the cymbal years ago and now I'm very much in love with a brand called Impressions, I have 2 20" and they're exquisite, one is 1680 grams (traditional line) and the other 1650 (dry jazz or something) also a while ago I scored a light 16" crash/ride by instambul pre split I believe, amazing for bebop jazz, bossa and anything quiet and jazzy and believe me, they really make a difference.
Some often say it's your hands, it's your technique and I agree partially is but I'm sure none of them will use a 22" heavy 2002 Paiste ride in a small venue with a jazz combo.
I come to find that even cymbals around the 2000 g mark are really too loud for what I play, I have a few I rarely use for instance a 22 by instanbul mehmet legend dark which is around 2200 g that I rarely use cause it's simply too loud, even if it's on the light side, it really overdrowns the double bass and the piano, not ideal.
On the same note I really can't get along with 22s much do any of you guys use it in jazz quartet/quintet/trio? I just find them best in fusion or big band as the volumes there can be a bit louder overall.
Do you guys know of any 50s/60s jazz drummer that used one? I believe they're not very common but I would like to be proven wrong.
I guess I have not come across many 22" that will fit the job, has anyone tried a 22" particoularly tamed ride cymbal? I would love to explore more 22sI think, actually in a modern day, many jazz drummers go for the 22” size, because of the lower pitch.
The cymbal volume is not tied to the gram weight. I had that Peter Erskine left side ride at one point, it was ~2500grams for a 20” it wasn’t ”loud cymbal”. Many ”paper” thin crashes can be really loud, and they are probably thinnest cymbals, manufactured widely in a modern day.