Problem with Remo Falam Slam.

Road Bull

Silver Member
So today I have noticed that my Remo Falam Slam, (Patch, FALAM®, 2.5" Double Kick Slam), has started to separate from the adhesive backing that anchors it to the drum head.

Has anyone else noticed this happening to them? I applied the patch to a brand new, clean Remo Emperor Clear 26" bass head. I stuck it on once where I needed it, and never moved it. But I noticed tonight during practice that it has been coming apart. The angle of the DW beaters are flat on, so I am not quite sure what to make of it other than bad luck.

It's not even coming off clean so that I could remove it like a band-aid and apply a new one. I will have to remove the whole affair and goo-gone the head to remove the sticky adhesive that is left behind so that I will have a clean surface to put a new Falam Slam on. I like the Remo Design the best for it's intended purpose, but I hope this is a freak happening as I don't want this type of fail to become a regular occurrence.

What do you think?
 

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dzarren

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did you clean the head with iso-alcohol before application?
I know evans always reccomends it, but i only ever do it for clear heads, im afraid to clean heads with solvents that have coatings, but for clear heads, i think it's a good idea to clean with a strong organic solvent.
 

Road Bull

Silver Member
did you clean the head with iso-alcohol before application?
I know evans always reccomends it, but i only ever do it for clear heads, im afraid to clean heads with solvents that have coatings, but for clear heads, i think it's a good idea to clean with a strong organic solvent.
No I didn't, but I have never had this issue before.

However, I don't think this is so much an issue of it not sticking. This seems to be a issue where the adhesive that is on the patch backing has no problem sticking to the bass drum head, but the patch has a problem sticking to the adhesive. I will have to scrape the adhesive goo off in order to place a new patch on the head. I just hope the patch holds together.

I just shot Remo off an email describing the situation and linked this thread and pictures. I will let you know if I hear anything from them.
 
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evogel

Senior Member
I have been using Falam Slam's for many years and have never had this issue.

I never prep the surface with alcohol before application. I do apply it to a brand new head though. .

I'd bet that you just got a lemon and next time it'll be fine. Maybe Remo will somehow make good on this but even if they don't, I'd bet that all ends up cool.
 

CreeplyTuna

Silver Member
I'd bet that you just got a lemon and next time it'll be fine.
I concur. I had mine on for years without anything like that. I even tried taking it off when I got a new kit and it was hard as hell. Those things stick like crazy, and I used a new clean head without any prep whatsoever. I think you just got a defective product. That sucks, but at least they aren't too pricey. Let us know Reno's response, maybe they'll replace it.
 

Road Bull

Silver Member
Well, no reply whatsoever from Remo.

I just pulled off the old Falam patch and what was left behind is all the sticky residue. I took to it with some Goof Off. Man... it just smeared the adhesive around quite a bit. I thought that maybe I had made a big mistake. It was bunching up into little balls of adhesive, that looked like a much more sticky rubber cement. And when it got on my fingers, would act as a pretty good glue agent. lol. It took quite a bit of elbow grease and a small pool of that Goof Off, but it did get to a mostly clean state.

I gotta tell you, I was a bit apprehensive about putting another Falam on the newly cleaned head. All I can say is... This had better hold up a lot better than the last one.
 

Winegums

Silver Member
That's a weird problem to have... did you apply the Falam Slam before or after tuning up the bass head? Since it's kevlar it's not going to stretch much so tensioning after you stuck the patch could cause it to lift in this manner.
 

Defender

Silver Member
Personally I would take like 5 or 10 pictures or it and remove it and then go to the store with the remains after you've pulled it off and ask them if they are going to provide you with a new one. That's pretty ridiculous.
 

Road Bull

Silver Member
That's a weird problem to have... did you apply the Falam Slam before or after tuning up the bass head? Since it's kevlar it's not going to stretch much so tensioning after you stuck the patch could cause it to lift in this manner.

Yeah, it was applied to a tuned up bass head. The identical patch I replaced it with is holding up OK. It might have just been a fluke, but a PITA fluke indeed.
 
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