I pulled my Paiste 505 20" ride cymbal out of the closet the other day. I'd forgotten that I had it. It was a shopgoodwill.com steal a few years back. I think I paid $50 for it at the time. I was really surprised at how well it recorded. It has a smooth pingy sound and depending on where you hit it the sound changes dramatically. It crashes well too which is a bonus. I'm going to leave it in with my "A" kit for a while and see how I like it. It was a nice "Clean out" surprise. Somewhere I have two hi hats to match.