Over or Under

[GruntersDad]

Was watching an old I've Got A Secret program last night, and on the show was the All Women Jazz Band. The drummer was playing traditional grip, but was playing the left hand, snare, over top of the right hand hi-hat ride. Looked hard to do.

 

[No Way Jose]

Sounds more like "Ripley's Believe It Or Not" TV show to me.

 

[A J]

For me, anything Jazz is hard to do.

 

[drumnut87]

Was watching an old I've Got A Secret program last night, and on the show was the All Women Jazz Band. The drummer was playing traditional grip, but was playing the left hand, snare, over top of the right hand hi-hat ride. Looked hard to do.

was it viola smith by chance on the drums? if so, she was a great drummer <3


it does sound a bit complicated doing the ride pattern mind

 

[Stroman]

I misread the title of this thread. I thought it was about shotguns, and I was gonna say I prefer a side by side.

 

[MrInsanePolack]

Were the hats extremely low, like snare height or less?

 

[GruntersDad]

Were the hats extremely low, like snare height or less?

a little higher than the snare. These ladies were between 50 and 80 years old.

 

[MrInsanePolack]

a little higher than the snare

That's weird. Whatever works though.

 

[Freewill3]

I was always curious what the origin of this technique was. Either early blues and/or jazz? Here's a clip of Buddy with Artie Shaw playing left over right traditional grip.

 

[Over50drumguy]

I’ll take the Steelers and the over .
Wait ? Where am I ?

 

[ToneT]

All I can add to this is Thank God for my DW Cable hat!

 

[GretschedHive]

Just thinking of it feels uncomfortable, but watching it takes it to a whole 'nother level. I mean, hey, he obviously made it work for him, just like Hank Aaron originally batted cross-handed...but...

 

[drumnut87]

maybe it could be that the hi hat stands of the time didnt reach up high enough to cope with the 24/26/28 inch bass drum kits of the time and it was the closest they could get to being comfy at the time?

 

[DrumEatDrum]

maybe it could be that the hi hat stands of the time didnt reach up high enough to cope with the 24/26/28 inch bass drum kits of the time and it was the closest they could get to being comfy at the time?

Bingo.

Hi-hat stands came from "low boy" stands has the hats were originally only played with the foot, and not the stick.

Then someone got the idea to try to add a center pole to the low boy so one could reach the hats with a stick too.

But inventing the hi-hat came in stages.

The 1st hi-hats weren't all that high compared to the big bass drums of the time.